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The down vote ratio shows you the amount of brainrot there is
Smugposting about other leftists lefting wrong is the way to go obvs.
Liberals are not leftists.
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Do they win elections though? When they do nothing with that win other than shift further to the right and lock in right wing policy with their ratchet effect, it’s not a win but a capitulation
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You say that as if voters have any impact on policies. Propaganda has convinced them there are only 2 options so they pick the one they think is left wing.
EVEN IN YOUR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY a self styled socialist just won an election in New York City. Honestly man? You’re just plain ass wrong.
self styled socialist
Democratic socialist, not even close to being the same thing
I’m from China
Well good for you, you’re still ridiculously wrong.
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Yeah, because they all got crushed after their democratically elected leaders got removed and often killed or imprisoned during the entire Cold War. Also leftists are starting to win elections again quite regularly in South America, so I’m starting to think you just don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
They didn’t win elections because dumb ass liberals think their shade of fascism will save them
I’m sorry but this annoys the shit out of me when people in white imperialist countries say this shit. Leftists have won elections in so many countries but the Americanized idea that you can’t be left of liberal if you want to win elections in a moronic party system that has only been imposed and perpetuated by THIS EXACT LINE OF THINKING is frustrating as fuck for those of us who don’t live there.
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Not true historically, just recently in the US. But it’s also hard for a leftist to vote left when there’s literally no leftist party. One might say, by definition, impossible.
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Yet they’re always the first to blame when libs lose elections.
You don’t understand how the American party system works my friend.
In the USA. There are other countries. Like at least ten.
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Winning elections by itself doesn’t defeat fascism. Most of the countries that won by elections during the Cold War had their leaders deposed and had fascists installed because they were helpful to US interests. That is the entire point of this post. Just voting doesnt do fuck all to stop fascism.
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When the 2 choices provided are blue fascist or red fascist the choice will always be fascism
Right, so after voting doesn’t work, and a fascist state is installed, you just allow fascism to take hold until the next time you get to vote? If you do?
Also I can’t think of a single time that fascism has won a legitimate democratic election. But feel free to enlighten me and I’ll get back to you about it tomorrow. Maybe I’m wrong.
I wish it was possible to try to vote away fascists and do direct action at the same time. Sadly we live in a binary, do one thing at a time world…
Let’s not resort to racism! All liberals are fucking like this.
Not saying you’re right or wrong, but this attitude sounds like fanaticism.
I’m a white liberal and I think civil disobedience, violence against officials/ice, and revolution work.
Surely most people have realized by now the Democratic officials (most, anyway) are actually Republicans.
They won’t help us.
Poll approval numbers seem to indicate most Americans are aware of this.
Many are ramping up to take matters into their own hands if the legal way continues to not be used appropriately to fix the issue.
If you’re in favour of radical changes and militant resistance, leftist might be a better label than liberal. Among srs leftists liberal doesn’t have the same meaning that it does in American corporate media.
This exactly.
So how else is it going to work? Do you think violent authoritarianism is a solution to overcome violent authoritarianism?
A bullet through the head of every fascist, red or blue, now until the end of time will do the trick. No compromises or letting them squirm away.
And who decides who gets shot? And how do you prevent people from using this to settle personal scores? And how is that not going to end in a worse system than what you started with?
You shoot every billionaire and anyone who values profits over human beings (judging them based on their actions, not their words). This includes investors that try to drive the rich assholes into being even worse to their employees than they already are.
You gotta escalate, really put some effort into your memes.
