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  • zen@lemmy.ziptoFediverse@lemmy.worldwe need more users
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    2 days ago

    Yeah you’re absolutely right. Though we are talking about two separate things here; OP and I are talking about “eat the rich” left rhetoric. Like people coming here and seeing comments like, “wheel out the guillotines”, and “kill all CEOs”.

    You’re talking about the fact that we shouldn’t welcome conservative voices after they’ve ruined the rest of the internet. I absolutely 100% completely agree with you.

    I’ll give you an example; I’m more leftie than my wife. So it surprising to her when I said that people should be allowed to just punch Nazis with no legal ramifications. Like to her it was actually confronting to hear someone she knew advocate for violence. I explained my reasoning. They are corrosive to society’s norms, and really need a different set of rules to regular people to be contained. The only language they understand is violence.

    But the point is the average person is going to be immediately repulsed by calls for violence and extreme rhetoric, regardless of whether it is morally justified and the reasoning is technically correct.

    So imagine a moderate “regular” person coming to this forum. Without the context of history that you and I have, how do they interpret these comments? Will they want to stay on Lemmy?

    I’m not saying Lemmy should change, by the way. I have no problem with the rhetoric, and there’s a case to be made that getting rid of it may make it easier for conservatives to get a foothold here. But it’s worth a discussion, I guess.

    And that all said, there’s a chance that by “eat the rich” OP means anything complaining about the rich, in which case they can fuck off to their own instance.



  • zen@lemmy.ziptoFediverse@lemmy.worldwe need more users
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    2 days ago

    I’m going to tentatively upvote this. There’s a good reason the left wingers on this platform sound bitter (myself included). The Overton Window has shifted right, so they’re pretty much surrounded by toxic right-wing stuff on every other platform.

    Still, it doesn’t help Lemmy attract moderates.


  • zen@lemmy.ziptoFediverse@lemmy.worldwe need more users
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    2 days ago

    I really admire this, and wish I was more like this. I had conservative parents and grew up in a conservative echo chamber. I got their opinions shoved down my throat my entire life. I have exactly 0 patience for conservative most view points. Especially when there it conflicts with scientific evidence and/or common decency. I tend to shut down conversations (online and in real life) with people that disagree with me.

    Reality is it just hurts me to see their opinions being the dominant/default position in society. Makes our society feel unforgiving.

    But I’m trying to change. I’m meditating, and journaling on this.



  • zen@lemmy.ziptoFediverse@lemmy.worldwe need more users
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    2 days ago

    I’m going to be frank.

    I’m highly empathetic, and studied history, sociology, economics, international relations, and a few other subjects in university. I dabble in reading as well.

    It’s really, really hard for me to stomach the news coming out of the US right now. I’m Australian, so in comparison I live in a utopia. But I just want to cry whenever I see how innocent people are being hurt in the US, Venezuela, Palestine, or really anywhere else. I get angry when I see how the US government, and many others are fucking everything up right now. Things don’t have to be like this.

    There is so much American news on this platform. There is so much bad news in general. I don’t come to the internet to stress and worry. I come here to learn stuff about niches and chill out. And every time I’m on Lemmy I’m left with the same bad feelings I get from reading world news subreddits.

    Let me be clear; I have no problem with the fact that American news gets posted. It’s that when I get on the lemmy.zip or lemmy.world page, some days 9/10 links are to American news, that is very, very, bad news. It makes me miserable.

    So why should I be here instead of just switching off? I love Lemmy, but I find that I just can’t justify coming on here. It makes me feel awful.