• unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth
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    4 days ago

    Lol did you even read my comment? I specifically said the US democracy is crumbling. Three guesses as to what democracy crumbles into.

    But yeah OK, China is a great democracy, go ahead and vote out the CCP. I’ll wait.

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      4 days ago

      Funny how it’s always “crumbling” but never actually crumbled. Non-western countries are full on authoritarian, but western countries are only ever “maybe heading in that direction, possibly” even when they do even worse shit than China ever did.

      Why role I vote out the CPC? It’s incredibly fucking telling that your idea of “democracy” is an incredibly popular party being removed from power because westerners don’t like them. Chinese citizens absolutely could vote them out if they wanted, but the in the western white supremacists idea of democracy, only the opinion of westerners matters.

      How about you go ahead and vote out capitalist parties in the West, if they’re such great democracies?

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        4 days ago

        “Why would I vote out [authoritarian government]? It’s a very popular government!” -every authoritarian supporter, ever

        And there is a very major difference between one party that controls who gets on the ballot and a swath of parties that agree on a certain economic principle, that’s a false equivalency. And there have been capitalist parties voted out in the West, so even with that false pretext your argument is moot.

        Oh, and stop putting words into my mouth. Things I never wrote:

        • Western democracies are maybe heading in that direction, possibly -> yeah, they’re not a monolithic block, different countries are different, just like Asian countries are not a monolithic block - and backsliding into authoritarianism isn’t something that happens overnight
        • My idea of democracy is a popular party being removed -> no, my idea of democracy is that the people have the right to chose a different party and to publicly voice dissent
        • …because westerners don’t like them -> no, because I believe humans have a right to chose who governs them
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          3 days ago

          “Why would I vote out [authoritarian government]? It’s a very popular government!” -every authoritarian supporter, ever

          So you’re just straight up admitting that you don’t care if the government is popular: you don’t like it, so it has to go

          And there have been capitalist parties voted out in the West, so even with that false pretext your argument is moot.

          Lol. When?

          Western democracies are maybe heading in that direction, possibly -> yeah, they’re not a monolithic block, different countries are different, just like Asian countries are not a monolithic block - and backsliding into authoritarianism isn’t something that happens overnight

          I have no idea how you managed to miss the point the completely and absolutely.

          no, my idea of democracy is that the people have the right to chose a different party

          Ah. So actually being able to choose policy doesn’t matter; what matters is being able to choose between red team and blue team

          no, because I believe humans have a right to chose who governs them

          And the people of China have chosen the CPC. But you’ll never accept that, because they’re not who you want them to choose. You will never accept that China is democratic unless it’s run by people you like.

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              3 days ago

              Wow, you claimed I missed the point - I was just pointing out that you’re putting words into my mouth, but the projection is pretty damn strong here.

              Ok, I’m done here. No point trying to talk to someone who’s deliberately playing dumb