• Guitarfun@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    I highly doubt most women who make porn would do it if their needs were met otherwise. I know how much I hate my 9 - 5 so I can’t even imagine the suffering and dread they must feel. We really should have a UBI system.

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      Yeah, ridiculous. It’s not like the court didn’t recognize the putrescence of the acts in general, since others got over 20 years.

      Even the fucking camera guy, who apparently wasn’t involved in the actual trafficking at all, got 4 years. Is any sane person going to argue that his offense is twice as bad as hers?

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    For anyone wondering about the others involved who were not mentioned in the headline, but were at the center of the sex trafficking, here is the ending paragraph of the article:

    Judge Sammartino sentenced Pratt to 27 years in prison in September; Andre Garcia, the main “actor” in GirlsDoPorn videos, was sentenced to 20 years in prison on June 14, 2021; Theodore Gyi, the primary cameraman for the ring, was sentenced to four years on November 9, 2022 and ordered to pay victims $100,000; Wolfe was sentenced to 14 years on March 20, 2024; Douglas “James” Wiederhold, who performed in videos before Garcia and was the co-owner of MomPOV.com with Pratt, is set to be sentenced in January.

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      To clarify what I mean by “at the center”, the woman of the headline was directed on what to do. She played an important role in coercing the women, but wasn’t a mastermind directing anything. All around fucked up situation and I feel horrible for the victims who were raped on camera for millions of viewers.

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    12 hours ago

    The GDP scandal was one of those I still don’t know if I understand.

    They were breaking all sorts of laws in the process of making them, but the videos themselves were somehow legal? And it basically came down to the hosting platforms to remove them (which idk if they ever did).

    Like this was a full blown conspiracy effort. What did they think was going to happen when they released the video of any victim and the victim asks in the video of anyone is going to see it?

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      11 hours ago

      The first amendment is a very strong freedom of speech in this country.

      For example: if (purely hypothetical) I threaten you with bodily harm or similar, I could be imprisoned such as one sentence I saw a headline about today, HOWEVER it is your right to tell people about those threats via the first amendment.

      IMO the law just needs to catch up perhaps by transferring copyright to the U.S. as punishment for a crime so they can legally DMCA them on pure copyright grounds. But nonconsensual porn is a legal grey area technically. Underage laws are very much limited to the underage.

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        nothing will ever remove these videos from the internet, you can type GDP e# and find every single episode right now via regular search engines.

        it’s the internet…that’s how it works, never going to change. dmca threats only matter against legitimate businesses with significant exposure to US markets, like Pornhub, which don’t even host that content (anymore, they purged alot of their dubious “amatuer” content right around the same time as all this shit went down, iirc). To everyone else, your dmca requests are rightfully treated like toilet paper.

        the best thing the US could do to stop these US-based sex trafficking pipelines is invest in public education, so their woman are smarter and less susceptible to them. (as well as invest in a proper social safety net, so only those that actually want to do sex-work get into the business), but the nation where scam-culture reigns naturally loves to keep it’s population stupid and struggling

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      Its not a complicated case, but I understand your confusion.

      I think you’re not understanding that many if not most of the actors were ultimately willing. What was going on was the the producers were basically monsters who dehumanized their talent. Say, 5 out of 6 women would just say “fine, give me the money because I’m desperate”…but some of them would try to say no and be coerced/literally forced into sex on camera. Because the producers had dehumanized them…they didn’t see what they were doing was wrong.

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        Ok that’s the part that I’m struggling with (yay all or nothing thinking). See I thought they were all saying no.

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          I unfortunately know a lot of about this case and the industry because I work in poverty outreach. The industry/this case is no different/not separate from stripping, modelling etc…it’s all massive grey area - some would call it a black hole.

          What the GDP umbrella company was doing isn’t much different to what any amateur porn studio/modelling agency does: They’re these sex-trafficking pipelines that lure women in with promises of modelling contracts, commercials etc. Theres no porn company that posts an ad saying “porn actors wanted” (or very few). There’s almost always a continuum of interconnected agencies that start women off soft with calendar/bikini shoots but ultimately try to funnel women to hardcore porn…but will make money off them at the earlier stages…or just “leave” them in the earlier stages if they resist/make enough money. The “problem” with GDP was the male actors were basically rapists…didn’t take no for an answer if they wanted somebody in their pipeline to do hardcore. They would functionally imprison them by bringing them from far away and delaying flights and shuffling them between hotels. They were also using existing talent to coerce prospective talent…like you’d see in a sex work “stable”. Along the way they would make them more complaint with drugs and alcohol…implicitly telling them it would be over once they shot their scene. The majority of women could plausibly be said to have consented at some point…but not all of them.

          Most agencies stop short of outright rape…but all agencies assault or coerce their talent to go deeper into the pipeline in one way or another. The woman who’s the subject in this case likely only went to prison because of things she didn’t know her male actors/owners were doing (although I don’t know the exact details, it’s likely they kept clerical people insulted from the acts).

          Too much info? YW.

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            iirc, the only reason GDP got singled oit was because one of the latter woman to get screwed over and doxxed was the daughter of some big bank CEO

            $ and connections is all that matters in this country

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    12 hours ago

    I have mixed feelings on this case getting so much attention. Yeah…it’s good that these people finally got caught and brought to justice…and that’s going to cause the rest of the industry to get safer.

    But, to an extent, much of the industry is still the Wild West. It’s should have blown the lid off the industry…because every single amateur porn “studio” lies to their models and coerces them into sex. So much more beyond what GDP was charged with is illegal.

    It’s like…I almost feel sorry for this woman, granted I don’t know the full details of her involvement. Every single porn studio lies to actors and coerces them into sex or acts they don’t want…if that was the limit of her involvement, then a lot more people from every studio need to go to prison. Did she just go to prison because the male “talent”/producers at her particular company were monsters?

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      the only reason anyone connected to GDP went down is because one of the last woman they screwed over and doxxed was the daughter of JPM’s CEO (or some other national bank, i forget)

      like damn near everything else in this country, $ and connections is all that matters

      if they had never accidentally kicked a hornets nest they’d probably still be making videos