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    Deaths, yes. Not by much though. There were more ICE deportations though. That tells me you didn’t actually look into it.

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      No one yet has complete and reliable data for the number of ICE and other deportations in 2025. But there has been an analysis of ICE flight data that showed a 62% increase in the number of deportations-related flights in 2025 compared to 2024, as of September:

      https://humanrightsfirst.org/library/ice-flight-monitor-september-2025-monthly-report/

      ICE flights month by month - chart

      Source: PDF report on ICE flights

      The ICE arrest data also shows a steep rise in 2025:

      ICE arrests 2025

      Source: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2025/12/11/ice-jails-update/

      Since you are confident of your analysis showing the opposite, please provide your sources and numbers instead of telling people to do their own research.

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        The best they’ve got are stats from before Trump was president, and they’re “too lazy” to keep looking.

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        I did provide the source, literally the one used by your sources. Which even show that there were way less in ‘24 compared to previous years, then shot up again. This is done by both R and D on many instances BTW to look better in comparison. So when you see a comparison between a president’s first year, to previous’ last, look at other years.

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          The source you linked to (https://www.ice.gov/statistics) only has data up to December 2024, when Biden was still President. The sources I linked to had data from 2025. The small numbers for 2025 in your link are for Fiscal Year 2025, ending in December 2024, so despite the name FY2025, that’s really just the last 3 months of 2024.

          So those statistics contain no information about what ICE has been doing since January 2025 when Trump returned.

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            When looking at one of the charts you provided, would it be fair to assume that it was like 300 deportations per day in 2024? That would be like twice as many ICE deportations as what I’m seeing in the ICE website.

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                In that 2nd chart, from prison policy. It’s only showing 3 months of 2024 though, and they average about 300 ICE deportations per day. When I compare that number to the ice website, numbers are way off, unless they were on crack those 3 months. So what’s off here?

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                    So then why was I given that chart? And then the first chart barely has an increase in deportations compared to 22 & 23, just a massive spike in domestic flights.

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        Wait until I tell you that AOC also voted to increase police funding, that Obama was the Deporter in Chief, had a War on Whistleblowers, killed a family member of a terrorist (son), and increased drone strikes like a 1000%.

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          You’re telling me that ICE received a massive funding boost and a ton of new brownshirts but deportations went down?

          Maybe answer this first before you throw more shit around.

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            Maybe. Biden and Obama deported everyone who needed deporting in an attempt to please the Republican voter.

            There weren’t many problems left to validly deport.

            It’s why they started raiding workplaces and schools. Any actual problems were already solved.

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            You’re right, they did receive a massive funding boost. I don’t think that’s the police funding increase I was talking about regarding AOC though. I don’t know how many brownshirts were in ICE under Biden & Trump though, so I can’t speculate. But yes, deportations did go down, and it wasn’t just cause they included the numbers that were turning away at the border though, but actually taken from American soil, and deported elsewhere.

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      There were more ICE deportations though.

      I can’t find a source that says that’s true. Got one handy?

      Edit: Nope, just downvotes, apparently.

      From bots too, nice.

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        There’s a link by me somewhere in this post. Only compares Biden years, and trumps first though. Was too lazy to find other ones other than random charts on reddit.

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          So, you’ve got nothing to back up your bold claim? I’m shocked. You do know that Trump wasn’t president in 2024, right?

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            I literally linked the ICE website that compares Biden years, and Trumps first year, 2025. Where did I say trump was president in '24?

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              It has no data for calendar year 2025. The part labeled FY2025 is the first 3 months of fiscal year 2025, which are the last 3 months of calendar year 2024. You have misunderstood the data.

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              Current as of January 2025

              You realize that Trump took office in January of 2025, right? That’s not a year. It literally has not been updated since Trump took office. Have you tried reading?