Shut the fuck up. These are members of the actual community policing a STREET themselves.
Fuck outta here with your garbage. State surveillance and power is scary cuz it’s the fucking state.
No one in Minneapolis is spinning up an NSA, and no one with a brain thinks a community imposing order and safety itself, on its own community, as it’s invaded by a fascist paramilitary, shares anything in common with the idiotic slippery slope nonsense you’re talking about. Get a grip (or get better at propaganda, your call).
“Violating liberties is only bad when the fascists do it. When I do it, its okay.”
-You
I’m willing to have an open dialogue, but when you immediately jump in with the attacks and bad faith arguments, you get blocked. I never said that these actions will lead to those things, I said their driven by the same mentality: violating liberties for a righteous crusade. Your heart may be in the right place, but two wrongs don’t make a right.
I’m not criticizing people defending their communities. Calling out bad tactics is not the same as criticizing the entire movement. But when you resort to violating liberties to do it, the thing you’re supposedly fighting against, then you’re clearly a hypocrite and you’re clearly in the wrong.
then how should they defend their communities? what would you do to organize your neighbors and keep themselves safe from unidentified goons dressed driving around in vehicles that are not clearly identified as being goons, sometimes even masquerading as delivery vehicles?
also the scale of violence is so wildly disproportionate that it’s EXTREMELY hard to take you serious. ICE: murdering people in the street for being brown or in the way. popular decentralized organization: making sure they know who’s coming in and out of their community not through a digital panopticon but by coordinating observations.
like… do you also consider the zapatistas an authoritarian power structure? popular front in palestine? the rojava?
You can keep your nursery rhyme morality, too. These are life and death stakes, occurring on the ground right now - hostility is the only appropriate response to a take as bad as yours, because it sounds like enemy action.
Shut the fuck up. These are members of the actual community policing a STREET themselves.
Fuck outta here with your garbage. State surveillance and power is scary cuz it’s the fucking state.
No one in Minneapolis is spinning up an NSA, and no one with a brain thinks a community imposing order and safety itself, on its own community, as it’s invaded by a fascist paramilitary, shares anything in common with the idiotic slippery slope nonsense you’re talking about. Get a grip (or get better at propaganda, your call).
-You
I’m willing to have an open dialogue, but when you immediately jump in with the attacks and bad faith arguments, you get blocked. I never said that these actions will lead to those things, I said their driven by the same mentality: violating liberties for a righteous crusade. Your heart may be in the right place, but two wrongs don’t make a right.
I’m not criticizing people defending their communities. Calling out bad tactics is not the same as criticizing the entire movement. But when you resort to violating liberties to do it, the thing you’re supposedly fighting against, then you’re clearly a hypocrite and you’re clearly in the wrong.
Good day.
then how should they defend their communities? what would you do to organize your neighbors and keep themselves safe from unidentified goons dressed driving around in vehicles that are not clearly identified as being goons, sometimes even masquerading as delivery vehicles?
also the scale of violence is so wildly disproportionate that it’s EXTREMELY hard to take you serious. ICE: murdering people in the street for being brown or in the way. popular decentralized organization: making sure they know who’s coming in and out of their community not through a digital panopticon but by coordinating observations.
like… do you also consider the zapatistas an authoritarian power structure? popular front in palestine? the rojava?
You can keep your nursery rhyme morality, too. These are life and death stakes, occurring on the ground right now - hostility is the only appropriate response to a take as bad as yours, because it sounds like enemy action.
Go fuck yourself.