President Donald Trump calls for nationalizing voting in the US, falsely claiming Democrats win through illegal votes. Critics warn of threat to democracy.
I disagree that there is nothing the states could do. They have armed personnel, they have citizens that support them, they have the law on their side. We outnumber them, we have a national guard, we have cops, and we could create militias, blue states not only should physically prevent the feds from marching in and running fixed elections, they have a duty to.
I mean, yeah, if the feds try to seize ballots, this is probably what’s going to have to happen, but please understand where this goes. Feds come in, demand the ballots to look for, “fraud,” local authorities refuse, and there is an armed standoff. Maybe a state calls in the National Gaurd for backup. Trump can then either nationalize that gaurd in response, leading to conflicting orders, and Trump almost certainly invokes the insurrection act, allowing him to send active duty troops into the state. That would be the beginning of the Civil War.
I doubt Trump wants something that messy though. He’ll almost certainly attempt to purge voter rolls wherever he can and suppress the vote with ICE. Dominion voting was also bought out by a Republican election official, so that could be another method to falsify the vote as well. Luckily those methods are imperfect (even Dominion voting requires a physical ballot trail), so we can still overcome that kind of voter suppression.
Yeah it’s messy now that it’s gotten to this point. This was something that needed to be addressed in 2021 through 2024 and wasn’t so now it’s exponentially harder. There is a chance in the succession fight to take it back with popular opposition, organization, and strong leadership, but I’m afraid we won’t have any of that. The same people that brought us Hillary and Biden and Harris will land on newsom, whose time was 2024 and he fucked us waiting his turn. But the important thing is no one made bad faith bigotry allegations on him. /s It’s hopeless with them in charge and they are as arrogant as every blaming those wanting popular reform for their loss, for not believing hard enough.
They seem more numerous than they are because of armies of influence agents including mechanized divisions, allied with the right aligned ones contributing guerilla fighters and sabotage with their mechanized trolls to help the candidates that can’t win get the nomination. Bottom line, it’s already too late barring change in leadership, and if by some miracle they did eke out a victory and not have it stolen from them all 7 ways from sunday, they would do nothing with it, and hand it right back to the extremist party.
And make no mistake it’s the party fixing elections doesn’t end with the president.
All that said, We know what they are going to try to do, because they are testing the waters, and setting precedents, so we should have forces in place to prevent the feds from doing those things in the first place, mobilized police and guards, and guards handpicked for loyalty in the units in certain locations, protecting the governor and legislatures and court officials from arrest, protecting voting precincts. A mobilized citizenry, including militias, should be mobilized, in place, and ready to be fully deputized as agents of the state should they be needed.
A campaign making everyone aware of the real legality, that the supreme court has no authority to cancel any part of the constitution, and their bad faith interpretations to help their party will not be accepted if in sheer defiance of reality. Need different wording on that, Courts Don’t Decide Elections, Voters Do. States Do. And so forth.
Of course it won’t matter if the democrats are only banking winning for not being the other guy, which is going to be their plan after crushing the left under waves of bullshit. Because they learned nothing, and fear popular reform taking the party more than the Republicans winning, and enough of the public, and the right, support them keeping control.
I mean, yeah, if the feds try to seize ballots, this is probably what’s going to have to happen, but please understand where this goes. Feds come in, demand the ballots to look for, “fraud,” local authorities refuse, and there is an armed standoff. Maybe a state calls in the National Gaurd for backup. Trump can then either nationalize that gaurd in response, leading to conflicting orders, and Trump almost certainly invokes the insurrection act, allowing him to send active duty troops into the state. That would be the beginning of the Civil War.
I doubt Trump wants something that messy though. He’ll almost certainly attempt to purge voter rolls wherever he can and suppress the vote with ICE. Dominion voting was also bought out by a Republican election official, so that could be another method to falsify the vote as well. Luckily those methods are imperfect (even Dominion voting requires a physical ballot trail), so we can still overcome that kind of voter suppression.
Yeah it’s messy now that it’s gotten to this point. This was something that needed to be addressed in 2021 through 2024 and wasn’t so now it’s exponentially harder. There is a chance in the succession fight to take it back with popular opposition, organization, and strong leadership, but I’m afraid we won’t have any of that. The same people that brought us Hillary and Biden and Harris will land on newsom, whose time was 2024 and he fucked us waiting his turn. But the important thing is no one made bad faith bigotry allegations on him. /s It’s hopeless with them in charge and they are as arrogant as every blaming those wanting popular reform for their loss, for not believing hard enough.
They seem more numerous than they are because of armies of influence agents including mechanized divisions, allied with the right aligned ones contributing guerilla fighters and sabotage with their mechanized trolls to help the candidates that can’t win get the nomination. Bottom line, it’s already too late barring change in leadership, and if by some miracle they did eke out a victory and not have it stolen from them all 7 ways from sunday, they would do nothing with it, and hand it right back to the extremist party.
And make no mistake it’s the party fixing elections doesn’t end with the president.
All that said, We know what they are going to try to do, because they are testing the waters, and setting precedents, so we should have forces in place to prevent the feds from doing those things in the first place, mobilized police and guards, and guards handpicked for loyalty in the units in certain locations, protecting the governor and legislatures and court officials from arrest, protecting voting precincts. A mobilized citizenry, including militias, should be mobilized, in place, and ready to be fully deputized as agents of the state should they be needed.
A campaign making everyone aware of the real legality, that the supreme court has no authority to cancel any part of the constitution, and their bad faith interpretations to help their party will not be accepted if in sheer defiance of reality. Need different wording on that, Courts Don’t Decide Elections, Voters Do. States Do. And so forth.
Of course it won’t matter if the democrats are only banking winning for not being the other guy, which is going to be their plan after crushing the left under waves of bullshit. Because they learned nothing, and fear popular reform taking the party more than the Republicans winning, and enough of the public, and the right, support them keeping control.
Only way out is with new leadership.