And none of these “Americans” are going to stand up to their oppressors.
The vast majority of citizens of all countries in this entire planet are just doing the best they can to get by and nobody has ever organized a coup against a ruling party for starting foreign wars. Whatever you are imagining is possible here is being imagined through a very, very narrow lens of what it’s like to actually be an American living in America.
I know you’re mad, but wherever you’re from, however superior you feel… the issues affecting American society are going to impact yours the same way if it’s not already. We are all the same species being exploited by the same forces. This is not an “America” problem. This is a “money” problem and if your elections aren’t completely bought and sold and your middle-class placated yet, they will be. (And they will be counting on you stoking as much hate and division as possible between your people and outsiders. Comments with your exact phrasing have been said here for decades about other countries to foster the nationalism that empowered all of this.)
Our elections are happening, but the results won’t be satisfying or fast enough to save lives.
Okay come on over and lead the charge, whatever it is. We have no leadership for opposition, we have no military, we have crushing debt and have to work 7 days a week broadly. We desperately need more than protests and weekend marches, but we’re about a century away from an actual armed coup or revolution because the vast, vast majority of the country is still comfortable enough that nobody wants to upset things even more and risk their razor-edge margin for life.
Again, this is not a USA problem, you would do better looking around your own country and figuring out where these weaknesses are being exploited and how they are going to attack your own social structure and atomize perspectives so that nobody wants to actually do anything about it. You’re equally vulnerable.
I am organizing community efforts and volunteering for working with progressive action groups in the states who have successfully gotten very popular progressive elected recently. (something that would not happen if there were compromised elections broadly, they just want us to think there are no more elections, they don’t have the power to cover all the states they would need to take over.)
It’s literally the most effective thing we can do, because again… “Going to Washington and tearing people limb from limb” is pretty hard when you don’t have the military, and even if it worked we would all have to live next to the majority of the country who didn’t want that because they want a functioning country and economy. The USA is HUGE, it’s not one big country with a small population who can take over when things go wrong, we are 50 individual countries connected, the federal government these states are constitutionally bound to are the people making the worst decisions, but it’s too large to just “march and hurt people” it needs procedure and electoral politics, even if the whole thing collapses and we have to start over from grassroots, state and county level rebuilding of democracy.
Okay so you’re just a paid provocateur or astroturfer then trying to sow arguing and division. I won’t see another childish, 2-dimensional, cartoon-like message from you.
The vast majority of citizens of all countries in this entire planet are just doing the best they can to get by and nobody has ever organized a coup against a ruling party for starting foreign wars. Whatever you are imagining is possible here is being imagined through a very, very narrow lens of what it’s like to actually be an American living in America.
I know you’re mad, but wherever you’re from, however superior you feel… the issues affecting American society are going to impact yours the same way if it’s not already. We are all the same species being exploited by the same forces. This is not an “America” problem. This is a “money” problem and if your elections aren’t completely bought and sold and your middle-class placated yet, they will be. (And they will be counting on you stoking as much hate and division as possible between your people and outsiders. Comments with your exact phrasing have been said here for decades about other countries to foster the nationalism that empowered all of this.)
Our elections are happening, but the results won’t be satisfying or fast enough to save lives.
Well said. The question is how do we fix it? I know. But I can’t do it myself.
Only one way to fix it.
Okay come on over and lead the charge, whatever it is. We have no leadership for opposition, we have no military, we have crushing debt and have to work 7 days a week broadly. We desperately need more than protests and weekend marches, but we’re about a century away from an actual armed coup or revolution because the vast, vast majority of the country is still comfortable enough that nobody wants to upset things even more and risk their razor-edge margin for life.
Again, this is not a USA problem, you would do better looking around your own country and figuring out where these weaknesses are being exploited and how they are going to attack your own social structure and atomize perspectives so that nobody wants to actually do anything about it. You’re equally vulnerable.
Everyone should stop working, march on Washington and Mar-a-Lago, and tear everyone limb from limb until it’s just a bloody mess
There are only 3 choices now that voting and protesting have proven ineffective:
Fight
Leave
Accept
Which one are you?
Throw our lives away in a useless action? Not so good advice.
I am organizing community efforts and volunteering for working with progressive action groups in the states who have successfully gotten very popular progressive elected recently. (something that would not happen if there were compromised elections broadly, they just want us to think there are no more elections, they don’t have the power to cover all the states they would need to take over.)
It’s literally the most effective thing we can do, because again… “Going to Washington and tearing people limb from limb” is pretty hard when you don’t have the military, and even if it worked we would all have to live next to the majority of the country who didn’t want that because they want a functioning country and economy. The USA is HUGE, it’s not one big country with a small population who can take over when things go wrong, we are 50 individual countries connected, the federal government these states are constitutionally bound to are the people making the worst decisions, but it’s too large to just “march and hurt people” it needs procedure and electoral politics, even if the whole thing collapses and we have to start over from grassroots, state and county level rebuilding of democracy.
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Ahh, got it. You’re just a Sea-lioning concern troll. In that case you can kindly fuck right off.
EDIT: Also, I’m nobody’s alt account. Do consider the fact that more than one person may disagree with how you are going about this.
That’s clearly fighting. I’m not an alt.
Okay so you’re just a paid provocateur or astroturfer then trying to sow arguing and division. I won’t see another childish, 2-dimensional, cartoon-like message from you.
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