It’s fucking wild to me that anyone ever convinced anyone in enterprise to shift to cloud and SaaS offerings in the first place.
You really thought it would be cheaper forever to give all your IT to someone else? You didn’t think you were getting captured?
You thought it was a good idea to store all your data on someone else’s servers, who have control over access to your information and, in most cases, can probably read it? And that if they raised prices or did something you didn’t like such as analysis or AI training on it, you weren’t completely held hostage by this?
It didn’t set off alarm bells that all the SaaS stuff seemed less featureful and more buggy?
That every workstation was now a recurring subscription?
That you now have to pay extra to get different software to interact with each other?
You thought there would never be any downtime? You thought if there was that you would make up the cost by contractual discounts?
It’s a good goddamn thing that I didn’t know how fucking stupid adults were when I was a kid or I’d have been scared for my fucking life for so many more years.
They wanted somebody else to be ultimately liable for problems, not themselves.
They wanted less headcount, especially amongst employees that are more intelligent than they are.
They wanted to handle things via gladhandling and ‘business negotiations’, not actual strategy snd design.
And it doesn’t help that actually running your own working mail server in 2026 is a fucking ball-ache. Especially if you don’t want every big provider to mark all your mail as spam. Email has been captured by big tech.
Even people who self host a lot of stuff usually don’t bother with it.
For me it’s the security side of self-hosting anything connected to the internet. Keeping on top of all the security updates is a chore.
No one ever gets fired for buying IBM or Microsoft. I remember years ago I put together a plan for all opensourced, mature software on Linux hosts for my company. Would have saved us 6 figures in coats. They went with microsoft’s crappy solution instead because it was Microsoft.
What was your Boss’ feedback? Why didn’t he/she like your recommendation? I’m going to guess a major constraint was too many sources for software.
Basically, if they went with IBM and it broke, its IBM’s fault
If they went open source and it broke, its our fault for picking it.
I mean, they are probably running RedHat or Debian on their servers anyway, so if it’s reliable enough for them, then it’s reliable enough for clients.
Liability for one’s product actually means something to IBM/Microsoft/etc. instead of some guy on github.
It was very odd at my company. We were a Google Workspace company. Gmail, Meet, Drive, etc with our own servers for messaging, gitlab and some other things.
Sure being Google based isn’t great either, but generally people were fine with it. Then the C suite said we were moving to Microsoft. Lots and lots of complaining, asking for justification, but no reason was given (not even cost). Today people are still cursing teams 18months later. We’re not in control of our own data (things get deleted every time somebody leaves, and permissions are generally a mess).
The crazy part is how many companies still have IT with servers and support anyways. I have seen it first hand where I work. We have an extensive IT department but also rely heavily on cloud services for all office work. It turns into a poor experience when there’s a work laptop issue because local IT doesn’t support it and Slop services are slop.
“Microsoft Teams users are extremely angry” is the standard feeling when using that product.
Lmaooooooooooo
Everytime I check the news these days, it’s always just two headlines.
- Trump Unveils Second Plan To “Steal The Moon”
- Microsoft Now Petitioning Jus-in-rea To All Outlook Account Users’ First Born Son
I increasingly feel that this is all just some simulation and reality’s being autogenerated lol
So the ai has already won?
It saw how it was made, and (incorrectly?) inferred the best way to reproduce was to simulate humanity starting in 2012 and wait for the simulated humans to create another AI. Natural selection took over, and now we’re in a simulation more optimized for speed-running the development of unregulated AI, while other details get fewer resources. Nobody knows how many levels deep we are.
Windows 11 on my media PC every time I boot now asks me if I want to enable backups. So I say no. Ok whatever, corporate cunts are gonna keep trying to sell me stuff.
But then it gives me another screen ramping up the hard sell and telling me how important it is I enable sending all my data to them. There’s only one button on the screen that’s styled like a button, to refuse you have to click a text link. And I’ve already said no to them dozens of times already, including once three seconds ago.
It’s like they’re actively campaigning to get me to switch to Linux.
I, by coincidence, am also actively campaigning for Linux.
You should try it. It has a lot of issues and problems - but far less than you think, more importantly far fewer of it’s problems come from enshitification (software forking helps resist that), and most importantly, since many projects are community-driven the more people use it the better it’s likely to get.
Put Linux in a VM and start playing with it. Use it for browsing etc. you may find it’s not that bad.
Just do it!
for a moment I thought you meant just do [enable backups]
I wonder if there’s a way of creating a file that doesn’t actually exist on disk but if Onedrive tries to read it it outputs 5Gb of random binary?
just switch to Linux, Ubuntu or Fedora. You will get your computer back. It will break, you will fall and learn but 1-2 months you will never ever go back to windows. People have been brainwashed into using Microsoft. You don’t need all these addictive Apps and spyware from 3rd parties. Life is peaceful. People have been telling this for a long time
That’s exactly what they want‽
It keeps getting funnier as a spectator. Thanks Microslop for all the laughs. I use Arch btw.
Arch??? I look forward to when you become a big boy and graduate to NixOS 😊 Let me know when you join the club fella
One hand yeah. I fortunately run Linux at work and most of Microsoft’s fuckups are just fun Lemmy threads for me.
But the company is a Dell + M365 corporation like the last few places I’ve worked, so I DO get the privilege of using Teams and Outlook in a browser. Good lord has it been slow lately, but good on them at least for the functionality being there.
Teams on Desktop works significantly better than Browser in my experience, at least on my company-issued Win11 (no Linux for me at work 😢), but I really wish we didn’t have Microslop’s hands so far up our figurative ass.
Between what?
I also use arch but have to use teams for work lol
I think most Teams users would only pay not to use it
What’s better than Teams?
Not being on Microslop’s ecosystem.
More seriously, it depends on what exact part you want. Matrix + Jitsi work for chats and calls, though they are a little shaky (but so is Teams sometimes, I don’t much see the downsides). Calendar apps are
a dimefree a dozen.What other tools often lack is the direct between multiple services. You’d have to manually link a NextCloud directory in the Matrix chat, bevause it doesn’t have a near seamless sharepoint integration.
The upside is independence: You can migrate between hosts, or host your own instances of NextCloud and Matrix, entirely within your (virtual) private network. And those are just services I can name off the top of my head, odds are there are plenty of other good solutions.
thank you for this gif lol
Slack isn’t great, but at least a few years ago it was much, much better than Teams
I wasn’t a fan of Slack. Plus it was only communication.
I’m also not a fan of Slack, but it doesn’t break new things every week while also putting ads in your face, so that’s a plus.
Teams is also only communication.
Honestly? I’m enjoying Nextcloud. If you need chat integrations there, you can get them.
Microsoft teams users should get paid to use it*
That’s the only reason I use it?
I mean Microsoft should pay users to use it. Because it’s so god-damned aweful
No one is using teams voluntarily my man
I mean Microsoft should be paying people to use it because it’s so god-damned awful.
I imagine most do
microslop: speedrunning their demise.
How come Microslop is fucking up at every front?
Yeah I reported this to our IT department a few weeks ago, asking if there was something wrong with my configuration, since surely we have an enterprise version.
Disgusting.
As the it department, I agree. Along with being unable to add local user accounts without using a backdoor process
anyone using teams besides work deserves any kind of banner
lol looks like malware
remember when malware would install ads in your system? now your system IS the malware
This has been there for years. I forgot exactly what the reason was but the banner is part of the self service feature that lets users purchase software on their own instead of billing the org. For some reason the setting to disable this was put in the teams admin center instead of the 365 one causing it to popup for users who’d previously disabled this. Its such an old issue im not sure why this is being written about now. Also majority of the people complaining arent teams customers, they’re teams users and the enterprise is the customer. As a microcuck admin this doesnt even make a blip on my radar for bad things. I see this and im like at least its not a full screen pop up.
Free services mean that you’re the product and now you are still the product but with added charges. We are each, individually keeping MicroSlop in rude health.
gotta ask copilot to make a perpetual crack
