"We need an economy that reflects the realities of 2026, not one stuck over a decade ago," said the newly sworn-in Rep. Analilia Mejía, who helped lead the campaign to raise wages in her home state of New Jersey.
OK the problem I always see with this. Let’s say I make $35 an hour. Shouldnt my salary now go up to like $70 since I was a higher value worker from that time? That won’t happen.
I agree people deserve to live in moderate comfort ( a 1 bedroom apartment and a small car is fine for many). But I’m sorry, the dummy on tik Tok all day that barely can do their job at a pizza joint should not make almost the same money that I do providing industrial service knowledge that makes products you use every day. Some jobs are far more valuable than others, in real life.
Thats why musicians get paid nothing and construction workers get bank. Because their service is much more valuable in the real world.
I am always the bad guy in these convos. But admit it. You know the shitheads I’m talking about. They do not deserve that amount of pay. Not every poor person is secretly rain man if they just had money. A lot of people are just dumb.
Again, yes, give them enough to live on, but a lazy and unskilled person doesn’t deserve land and a house and fancy things that other people worked their asses off for.
The hardest working people I know make shitall, and the lazy ones who don’t do anything useful make bank. I’d rather pizza place workers make a living wage for the thankless work they do then overpayed middle manager ghouls get to feel like bigshots.
People like you are so obsessed with making sure nobody gets a single penny more than they “deserve” disgust me. If people like you had their way, we’d all still be working 16 hours a day in the mines for subsistence wage, because obviously we don’t deserve better.
Wrong. I don’t believe in keeping the same wage levels at all. I agree; hard working construction folk DESERVE MORE MONEY. a clothing store worker does not deserve the same amount. I’m sorry, its a comparison of value of jobs.
Why do engineers get paid more? Because they’re fucking smart and spent their best years of life studying and slaving in college. If you partied your 20s away and didnt learn shit, fuck you, you deserve less money and a lower living standard (1 bedroom apartment, 1 car, etc. Still, no reason for that person to ever go hungry, thats not what I’m advocating for )
Why do grocery store sorters get paid less? My grandma does it for a job and its easy. If you can’t see that, I cannot help you. Be realistic.
I merely believe that more valuable work should be a higher reward. I think people REALLY got offended at this, maybe because they are sad little people with no job living in a basement and blaming everyone else for their problems.
You’re missing the point where people at least deserve enough to survive, or gasp maybe even enjoy their lives a little bit.
You’re also missing the point where the minimum wage hadn’t been updated for decades and maybe was remotely reasonable back in the 1970’s but, alas, we’re not living in the 1970’s, we’re living in 2026 and $7.25 (was it?) doesn’t buy you shit now.
No I get that. Notice I didnt say just survive. I said living , so yes, able to have fun here and there.
I’m trying to make the point that among many class working folk is the reason they vote republican Instead of democrat, because democrats want to “take all their money” and " pay people $40/hr to flip burgers". Yes , they’re idiots, but there is a little truth to that as I stated.
Note I’m not one of those people. Merely trying to break the Lemmy bubble and let you see into the real world for a moment.
The absolute arrogance of thinking that your experience is “the real world”. Serious protagonist syndrome. And no, there’s no truth to what you stated.
I also feel like in scummy america world, all the prices of everything will just shoot up like rent and food. So then me, with the previously higher paying job, would be making less overall
You didn’t apply any logic though, you just made a lot of unfounded assertions needed on your feelings about things. You really are a vile little slug.
As someone in the real world I’m sorry, I don’t agree.
To the extent we have it now? Hell no, I do agree with you. No one should have billions while there are people working 3 jobs to pay rent.
But, to the point that the person building houses deserves the same as a clothing store employee ? Fuck no. If you think they do, your not being real at all. There are levels of value people bring to society. Its always been that way.
Its not black and white. Nuance on Lemmy is often disregarded.
How do you consistently have the worst possible takes on fucking everything. And then feel compelled to spew that disgusting shit that festers in your ugly brain out into the world. God you’re such a small, vile person.
I never even stated i was against this. I’m taking a realist standpoint from conversations ive had with real life people on this very topic and the arguments I encounter. Your reply is reactionary and quite frankly immature.
Wow, you surely are a great conversationalist. Hopefully no more people like you come to Lemmy who can’t have a discussion without losing it. Take some emotional intelligence classes anon.
OK the problem I always see with this. Let’s say I make $35 an hour. Shouldnt my salary now go up to like $70 since I was a higher value worker from that time? That won’t happen.
I agree people deserve to live in moderate comfort ( a 1 bedroom apartment and a small car is fine for many). But I’m sorry, the dummy on tik Tok all day that barely can do their job at a pizza joint should not make almost the same money that I do providing industrial service knowledge that makes products you use every day. Some jobs are far more valuable than others, in real life.
Thats why musicians get paid nothing and construction workers get bank. Because their service is much more valuable in the real world.
I am always the bad guy in these convos. But admit it. You know the shitheads I’m talking about. They do not deserve that amount of pay. Not every poor person is secretly rain man if they just had money. A lot of people are just dumb.
Again, yes, give them enough to live on, but a lazy and unskilled person doesn’t deserve land and a house and fancy things that other people worked their asses off for.
The hardest working people I know make shitall, and the lazy ones who don’t do anything useful make bank. I’d rather pizza place workers make a living wage for the thankless work they do then overpayed middle manager ghouls get to feel like bigshots.
People like you are so obsessed with making sure nobody gets a single penny more than they “deserve” disgust me. If people like you had their way, we’d all still be working 16 hours a day in the mines for subsistence wage, because obviously we don’t deserve better.
Wrong. I don’t believe in keeping the same wage levels at all. I agree; hard working construction folk DESERVE MORE MONEY. a clothing store worker does not deserve the same amount. I’m sorry, its a comparison of value of jobs.
Why do engineers get paid more? Because they’re fucking smart and spent their best years of life studying and slaving in college. If you partied your 20s away and didnt learn shit, fuck you, you deserve less money and a lower living standard (1 bedroom apartment, 1 car, etc. Still, no reason for that person to ever go hungry, thats not what I’m advocating for )
Why do grocery store sorters get paid less? My grandma does it for a job and its easy. If you can’t see that, I cannot help you. Be realistic.
I merely believe that more valuable work should be a higher reward. I think people REALLY got offended at this, maybe because they are sad little people with no job living in a basement and blaming everyone else for their problems.
You’re missing the point where people at least deserve enough to survive, or gasp maybe even enjoy their lives a little bit.
You’re also missing the point where the minimum wage hadn’t been updated for decades and maybe was remotely reasonable back in the 1970’s but, alas, we’re not living in the 1970’s, we’re living in 2026 and $7.25 (was it?) doesn’t buy you shit now.
No I get that. Notice I didnt say just survive. I said living , so yes, able to have fun here and there.
I’m trying to make the point that among many class working folk is the reason they vote republican Instead of democrat, because democrats want to “take all their money” and " pay people $40/hr to flip burgers". Yes , they’re idiots, but there is a little truth to that as I stated.
Note I’m not one of those people. Merely trying to break the Lemmy bubble and let you see into the real world for a moment.
The absolute arrogance of thinking that your experience is “the real world”. Serious protagonist syndrome. And no, there’s no truth to what you stated.
OK genius, explain how. Explain how a roofer working 60 hrs a week in July deserves the same level of pay as a checker at Walmart.
That is it.
Because the work needs to get done.
Also, nobody said anything about “the same level of pay”, you through this tantrum just at the idea that they would make “more than they deserve”
Your pay wouldn’t go up immediately unless you have a decent boss. But the economy would mostly catch up in a year or two.
I also feel like in scummy america world, all the prices of everything will just shoot up like rent and food. So then me, with the previously higher paying job, would be making less overall
That’s going to happen anyway champ.
But his status might be diminished if people he considers beneath him have enough money to buy food.
Jfc you people really live in little bubble. I am speaking realistically. You realize lemmings are NOT the majority right ?
People have different jobs that offer different levels of value . thats it. I should have put it that way from the beginning.
And some people are so insecure in their value that they want others to starve.
I simply do not have the energy to list all the ways I find you utterly vile and contemptible after having read this comment.
No problem. This is not even a real conversation, and you are the reason people dont vote. All emotion and zero logic.
You didn’t apply any logic though, you just made a lot of unfounded assertions needed on your feelings about things. You really are a vile little slug.
Nobody deserves anything more than someone else
As someone in the real world I’m sorry, I don’t agree.
To the extent we have it now? Hell no, I do agree with you. No one should have billions while there are people working 3 jobs to pay rent.
But, to the point that the person building houses deserves the same as a clothing store employee ? Fuck no. If you think they do, your not being real at all. There are levels of value people bring to society. Its always been that way.
Its not black and white. Nuance on Lemmy is often disregarded.
Everyone lives in the real world, dipshit. Are you a literal child who hasn’t learnt that other people are real yet?
Why the fuck not? They both perform demanded labour. I can only assume this bizarre statement is motivated by sexism.
For example, people like you bring no value to society, and we would be better off if you died.
The nuance of “some people are just inferior and deserve to live a subsistence existence”
How do you consistently have the worst possible takes on fucking everything. And then feel compelled to spew that disgusting shit that festers in your ugly brain out into the world. God you’re such a small, vile person.
Oh boy.
I never even stated i was against this. I’m taking a realist standpoint from conversations ive had with real life people on this very topic and the arguments I encounter. Your reply is reactionary and quite frankly immature.
Good meme lol
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Wow, you surely are a great conversationalist. Hopefully no more people like you come to Lemmy who can’t have a discussion without losing it. Take some emotional intelligence classes anon.
Blocked.
Dipshit, you fucking lost it at the suggestion that people you think you’re superior to deserve fair pay.
No one is superior per se. Jobs have differing values. Why can no lemming see this? Stuck in your little bubble worlds I’m afraid.