Briahna isn’t in that camp. I’m talking specifically about left leaning activists that told people not to vote. Not Trump fans, yet still trump supporters in effect.
Swing voters probably don’t exist in any real number, and if they do they are unreliable anyways. A state or county flipping does not necessarily imply people flipped, especially when turnout is around 50%, it’s often just a matter of who showed up.
I hear your point: Harris was a better candidate than Trump.
To be more explicit, my response is to argue that people are tired of corporate pro-establishment pro-Israeli candidates. Trump is willing to lie to people with populist rhetoric that gives them hope.
He never lied about being pro-Israel, and he literally hawked baked beans in the oval office for no reason, he’s the most pro-corporate candidate in my lifetime, to an absurd degree. I agree people were motivated by him, but it was the racism. We really can’t replicate that on the left.
What also hurt Harris’ chances were activists like Briahna suppressing turnout. That’s my main criticism of her. Harris could’ve done better, but so could Briahna and others. Feels like I’m picking on her but that is the subject of this thread anyways.
If electing Harris would have saved a single Palestinian life, that was the correct choice.
It wouldn’t. If anything, she would have just been a more competent steward of the genocidal empire who would have avoided the massive push back against Israel that liberals started doing only after Trump was in power.
. I get that you feel really high and mighty
You really have to be a truly loathsome piece of inhuman scum to get huffy about people but supporting genocide.
by participating in democracy,
Just outright coming out and saying it now: Democracy is apparently when I have to vote for your Nazi monster, and if I vote for someone else I’m not “participating”. Fuck off you fascist pig. One day I hope your “participation in democracy” is you kneeling over a ditch.
There’s no world where you can convince anyone
Fuck off. Just because you’re an ideologically intractable fascist who makes it a point of pride that they can’t be convinced by reason doesn’t mean everyone else is also a loathsome demon.
America made doing a new Holocaust bipartisan policy and you’re sulking that people who hate your guts and will celebrate your death didn’t let your team be the one holding the lever at the gas chamber just because you told them they had to.
Briahna isn’t in that camp. I’m talking specifically about left leaning activists that told people not to vote. Not Trump fans, yet still trump supporters in effect.
Swing voters probably don’t exist in any real number, and if they do they are unreliable anyways. A state or county flipping does not necessarily imply people flipped, especially when turnout is around 50%, it’s often just a matter of who showed up.
By an astounding coincidence, centrists interpret all criticism as “telling people not to vote.”
I hear your point: Harris was a better candidate than Trump.
To be more explicit, my response is to argue that people are tired of corporate pro-establishment pro-Israeli candidates. Trump is willing to lie to people with populist rhetoric that gives them hope.
He never lied about being pro-Israel, and he literally hawked baked beans in the oval office for no reason, he’s the most pro-corporate candidate in my lifetime, to an absurd degree. I agree people were motivated by him, but it was the racism. We really can’t replicate that on the left.
What also hurt Harris’ chances were activists like Briahna suppressing turnout. That’s my main criticism of her. Harris could’ve done better, but so could Briahna and others. Feels like I’m picking on her but that is the subject of this thread anyways.
And his base are horrible people, so it was a selling point for them. It’s not a selling point for democrats, no matter how much it excites you.
“Shee shouldn’t have been an activist against genocide because it hurt my team’s chance of winning!”
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It wouldn’t. If anything, she would have just been a more competent steward of the genocidal empire who would have avoided the massive push back against Israel that liberals started doing only after Trump was in power.
You really have to be a truly loathsome piece of inhuman scum to get huffy about people but supporting genocide.
Just outright coming out and saying it now: Democracy is apparently when I have to vote for your Nazi monster, and if I vote for someone else I’m not “participating”. Fuck off you fascist pig. One day I hope your “participation in democracy” is you kneeling over a ditch.
Fuck off. Just because you’re an ideologically intractable fascist who makes it a point of pride that they can’t be convinced by reason doesn’t mean everyone else is also a loathsome demon.
America made doing a new Holocaust bipartisan policy and you’re sulking that people who hate your guts and will celebrate your death didn’t let your team be the one holding the lever at the gas chamber just because you told them they had to.
Sure, I’m the fascist, meanwhile you’re gleefully hoping I get killed by Trump goons that you helped put in power.
Yes, normal people want fascists to get killed.
Just join ICE already. They’ve got a nice signing bonus, keep licking the boot and you’ll get to kill all the unarmed civilians you ever dreamed of.