From what I understand, they truly do mean to make the lowest possible content money can buy, cram full of “fan recognizable moments” to make the most amount of money out of it as possible.
As in, that’s the goal, on purpose. Not as a “unintended side effect of us just being inept at making anything these days”. But just being VERY good at squeezing money from brands like Star Wars.
Just turning out slop. Easy. Comfy. Low content slop. And then sell stuffed Grogu’s. Andor was a fluke because the director was able to make something out of nothing. Without ever touching so much as “the force” or even a lightsaber!
I found the “levels of meaning” to be purely artificial and came off as more annoying than, well, meaningful.
Like did the heist arc really need that much build-up if everyone involved was just going to die? What did we even learn about the people working the heist besides “That one guy wrote a book!”, maybe it’d be one thing if the people were even likable to begin with… Then I could feel sorry that it takes the lives of such wonderful people who deserve better to fight back against the Empire, but they didn’t even come off as likable. All they did was whine about Andor’s inclusion in the heist.
When they died I felt absolutely nothing.
And what was even the point of the Kyber Crystal? I thought for sure it’d be used in the Heist or something, that he’d have to sacrifice his method of payment for the mission… But no, nothing was done with it.
Oh and speaking of meandering, why did the episode where the heist actually happen start with a 15 minute marching scene? Might as well have been dead air.
I can handle a slow burn, but what I can’t handle is having my time wasted. And Andor excels at doing nothing with its runtime.
For some of us the ship has already sailed. Episode 8 fundamentally changed the way I think about Star Wars. Before that, I’d already come to the realization that, despite leaning SW in the Star Wars vs Star Trek rivalry, I actually liked ST better. But I still had a love for SW that meant I would be in the theatre to see whatever SW movie was there.
Ep 8 killed that. For the better IMO because it was a stupid obsession, even if it wasn’t as strong as it previously was.
I saw Ep 9 in the theatre, but it was more of a symbolic finishing what I started many years prior. My viewing was somehow full of contempt and there was much that fed it. I’ve watched a bit of the other stuff Disney has put out and it wasn’t bad like eps 8 and 9 were, but I just don’t care as much anymore.
Like I understand Andor was well done. I might get around to watching it eventually, but I’m in no rush.
Star Wars has gone from an automatic “yes!” to just another franchise, for me at least.
Casual fan, but star wars lost me at episode 2. The original trilogy are a big part of my childhood so I’d have seen the others but can’t sit through them. I genuinely like Mandy but lost interest after season 3 and I tried to watch the other shows but just… didn’t like them. I know some hardcore fans but even they lost it after the final couple of films
Episode 2 is the one where I had to tell myself that George Lucas just sucks at deep romance plots but that’s not why I was watching. Because yeah, those “romance” scenes were awkward af when they didn’t have action adding to the intensity. Plus Anakin was waving red flags right from Ep 2 and it took some suspension of disbelief to even accept them as a couple even before the dynamic caused by their age difference (and Anakin acting like a child because Padme treats him as a child) and somehow she ends up even more attracted to him?
But the overall plot was still coherent (though maybe I was more forgiving because I knew it had to check off certain boxes to fit and it did) and not just going for that reaction in a live audience sitcom when one of the main characters first enters the stage like Ep 7 (though it did have potential still IMO) or an “ok, I’ll make the next star wars movie, but I actually hate everything about star wars and want to show that through my Episode”, or “ah fuck, the last guy really made a mess out of this, can you fix it? Or just make something, anything to finish this trilogy and we’ll try to recover on other stories in the franchise”.
Andor is overrated, I tuned out during the Heist Arc. 2 or 3 episodes of nothing but Rebels whining that Andor’s not one of the cool kids, then when the Heist actually happens we spend the first 1/3 of the episode marching… Andor was trash, the fact that people actually like it is a mystery that will forever baffle me.
Get used to it. Disney is going to grind Star Wars into dust.
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From what I understand, they truly do mean to make the lowest possible content money can buy, cram full of “fan recognizable moments” to make the most amount of money out of it as possible.
As in, that’s the goal, on purpose. Not as a “unintended side effect of us just being inept at making anything these days”. But just being VERY good at squeezing money from brands like Star Wars.
Just turning out slop. Easy. Comfy. Low content slop. And then sell stuffed Grogu’s. Andor was a fluke because the director was able to make something out of nothing. Without ever touching so much as “the force” or even a lightsaber!
We need more of that director.
I can’t be the only person who absolutely fucking hated Andor.
Hahaha, I can see it not being everyone’s cup o tea :-)
But my god did I like the writing and the levels upon levels of meaning crammed in there…
I found the “levels of meaning” to be purely artificial and came off as more annoying than, well, meaningful.
Like did the heist arc really need that much build-up if everyone involved was just going to die? What did we even learn about the people working the heist besides “That one guy wrote a book!”, maybe it’d be one thing if the people were even likable to begin with… Then I could feel sorry that it takes the lives of such wonderful people who deserve better to fight back against the Empire, but they didn’t even come off as likable. All they did was whine about Andor’s inclusion in the heist.
When they died I felt absolutely nothing.
And what was even the point of the Kyber Crystal? I thought for sure it’d be used in the Heist or something, that he’d have to sacrifice his method of payment for the mission… But no, nothing was done with it.
Oh and speaking of meandering, why did the episode where the heist actually happen start with a 15 minute marching scene? Might as well have been dead air.
I can handle a slow burn, but what I can’t handle is having my time wasted. And Andor excels at doing nothing with its runtime.
For some of us the ship has already sailed. Episode 8 fundamentally changed the way I think about Star Wars. Before that, I’d already come to the realization that, despite leaning SW in the Star Wars vs Star Trek rivalry, I actually liked ST better. But I still had a love for SW that meant I would be in the theatre to see whatever SW movie was there.
Ep 8 killed that. For the better IMO because it was a stupid obsession, even if it wasn’t as strong as it previously was.
I saw Ep 9 in the theatre, but it was more of a symbolic finishing what I started many years prior. My viewing was somehow full of contempt and there was much that fed it. I’ve watched a bit of the other stuff Disney has put out and it wasn’t bad like eps 8 and 9 were, but I just don’t care as much anymore.
Like I understand Andor was well done. I might get around to watching it eventually, but I’m in no rush.
Star Wars has gone from an automatic “yes!” to just another franchise, for me at least.
Casual fan, but star wars lost me at episode 2. The original trilogy are a big part of my childhood so I’d have seen the others but can’t sit through them. I genuinely like Mandy but lost interest after season 3 and I tried to watch the other shows but just… didn’t like them. I know some hardcore fans but even they lost it after the final couple of films
Episode 2 is the one where I had to tell myself that George Lucas just sucks at deep romance plots but that’s not why I was watching. Because yeah, those “romance” scenes were awkward af when they didn’t have action adding to the intensity. Plus Anakin was waving red flags right from Ep 2 and it took some suspension of disbelief to even accept them as a couple even before the dynamic caused by their age difference (and Anakin acting like a child because Padme treats him as a child) and somehow she ends up even more attracted to him?
But the overall plot was still coherent (though maybe I was more forgiving because I knew it had to check off certain boxes to fit and it did) and not just going for that reaction in a live audience sitcom when one of the main characters first enters the stage like Ep 7 (though it did have potential still IMO) or an “ok, I’ll make the next star wars movie, but I actually hate everything about star wars and want to show that through my Episode”, or “ah fuck, the last guy really made a mess out of this, can you fix it? Or just make something, anything to finish this trilogy and we’ll try to recover on other stories in the franchise”.
I like Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker, but they have no business co-existing in the same trilogy.
Andor is overrated, I tuned out during the Heist Arc. 2 or 3 episodes of nothing but Rebels whining that Andor’s not one of the cool kids, then when the Heist actually happens we spend the first 1/3 of the episode marching… Andor was trash, the fact that people actually like it is a mystery that will forever baffle me.
George Lucas
But it’s not even AI generated? 🤔
Turns out the slop was corporate shit all along.
Slop doesn’t have to be AI generated.
See for reference: most mobile games.