Damning new data from inside the Pentagon suggests that U.S. forces are currently expending more resources defending Israel from missile strikes than Israeli forces themselves…
Three officials with knowledge of Defense Department assessments told The Washington Post on Thursday that the lopsided effort “underscores the extent to which Washington has shouldered the burden of countering Iranian ballistic missile strikes during Operation Epic Fury.”
U.S. forces, according to those assessments, have used up to half their total inventory of certain high-altitude interceptor systems, while Israel has deployed its own at a slower rate…
The situation has apparently sparked alarm among American allies in Asia, particularly South Korea and Japan, which depend on U.S. anti-missile defense systems to deter attacks from hostile states such as China and North Korea.
Hostile states, who haven’t bothered anyone. Just like Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, Syria…
Crosspost from https://lemmy.ml/post/47835338
Military exercises with Japan and South Korea in East China Sea? Exercises with Philippines and Vietnam in the contested waters the PRC claims despite international court rulings to the contrary?
A lot of use of language calling China a threat?
Hmm… What are those military exercises responding to? Hmm? What’s China doing around the Philippines and Japan right now? Do you know? Hmm? I await your response
Responding to Chinese exercises responding to US joint exercises responding to Chinese exercises responding to US joint exercises responding to China responding to…
Not sure what your point is. I said PRC and US both did it. So you agree with that, right?
No. It’s very simple really and your attempt to downplay it is really pathetic. China has been aggressively expanding fishing and territorial operations in international waters. So this lame whataboutism you can shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Its funny of you to call my response to a post calling out China “whataboutism” when part of the idea of the original post is that the countries called out as hostile have done far fewer wars than the PoV nation-Empire The USA.
How dare I complicate a “China = bad, US = good” by exploring that the PRC might have reasons that make sense for it’s actions.
How dare I not assume that China’s aggressive expansion of fishing started in the 1970s when Korea and the US were engaging in anti-Communist war games around the DPRK and PRC after the Korean War.
Vietnam, Philippines, and the RoC are also part of the mess which is the South China Sea dispute (which really kicked off in the 70s too, with the discovery of oil there (how dare I write this aside insinuating which country is known best for its violations of international law, norms, and rules for a little bit of the black gold)) which to be clear I’m not on the PRC’s side on (or indeed any of the claimants on the whole. The South China seas is a mess, and needs to be settled; obviously the PRC has much greater clout and military power than the other claimants, so it won’t follow any arbitration that doesn’t give it most of what if wants - following the precedent set by the US with the UN and ICJ (there’s that “whataboutism” again, right? How dare I draw parallels and recognise similarities between hegemonic powers).
You’re desperately trying to pivot the conversation about current issues to historical context hoping that that a absolves anything. It doesn’t.
I never said the US was good, but, again, nice try to derail the conversation. I never absoved the US of past actions either. You guys do this a lot, I notice. These are all debate tactics to derail the discussion. They don’t work any more. We can see through the bullshit. It doesn’t change the fact that China is violating international waters. So shove it. Every country did bad things a hundred years ago. It’s not an excuse to do what China is doing in the present.
The whole “Israel-Palestine conflict began on October 8th, do not look at the ageing historical events behind the curtain argument”. And then seem to basically fallacy fallacy at anything you might have to think about how it fits with your narrative. If you’re actually trying to bring nuance and point out how large nations are bullies who use military and economic clout to force their will on the world around them: that’s what I’m saying too. Go back and look over what I’ve said with that lens, and see if you can find that reading.
Also, what’s with the focus on 100 years ago? Time hasn’t moved that fast yet. Round up by 50%? Just say S70 my friend.
And for the purpose of friendship I should assume you actually want to make a point and ask:
“OK then, what information do you actually want to convey to me? What is the core idea you want to assert, not a negation of something said but an idea that stands on its own.”
Sorry. It’s hard to tell in these communities when the discourse is neutral because imperialism seems to be sanctioned so long as it’s the right side that is committing it. And frankly, I find this game of wacamole exhausting. It might be true that there is additional context that highlights the impetus for the China’s aggressive manouvering in international waters. It doesn’t really change much about the present. Same applies to Israel. I understand why the Israeli people feel victimized by suicide bombers but it doesn’t justify the atrocities being committed by the IDF.
I get that. The hypocrisy of criticising one side, but not being able to bear any criticism when the other side does the same is infuriatingly lacking in moral backbone.
And while a change from US to Chinese hegemony might have some short term gains for some places, there would also be losses for others - one need only look at the Balochi, Tamils, Myanmar/Burma, Afghanistan for no shortage of examples.
The PRC is an imperial power ascendent, and the national ideology and mood is already scarily fascistic.
I mentioned Israel-Palestine for history, as too many folks seem to want to portray October 8th as a random, unprovoked attack by Palestinians - removing it from historic context which, all events, must always be kept.
We can never hope to build a better future without knowing and understanding how events lead to one another.
Anyhow, I’m sorry for any stress caused.