• fisch@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      But those are usually 5-seaters while this looks like a two seater. And it doesn’t have a trunk, just this weird truck bed that does nothing to protect your stuff against the weather. I like the design philosophy of this truck, but I’d argue that you get much more value out of a compact car.

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        just this weird truck bed that does nothing to protect your stuff against the weather

        That’s what’s called a pickup truck bed.

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          1 day ago

          Sorry, my European brain cannot fathom how such a pickup truck bed could be useful in daily life.

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            19 hours ago

            How could such a bed be useful? They’re incredibly useful!

            They’re useful to load things quickly. Awkward objects can be placed in the beds without having to carefully maneuver around a vehicle interior and all its obstructions. I do a lot of woodworking. Before we got a pickup, I would transport 2x4s and other lumber inside a Toyota Corolla. I’ve discovered it is actually possible to fit several dozen 8 foot long 2x4s inside a Corolla. But the pickup truck is such a better tool for the job. Plus you’re not moving a full sized sheet of plywood in a sedan.

            They’re useful fit to large objects that would never fit inside a vehicle. If properly strapped down, a pickup can transport an object much taller than the roof of the truck.

            They’re useful to move really dirty things you wouldn’t want in your car interior. Imagine you want to fill some garden beds with mulch or compost from a garden supplier. You could get it in small bags, but that would be expensive. It’s cheaper to buy in bulk. You could have them deliver it, but that would be more expensive still. If you need to move soil, compost, rock, or anything else dirty in bulk, a pickup is the way to do it. You can have the garden center fill your truck bed with a back hoe. Just dump it right into the bed. Then shovel it out when you get home. To clean out the bed, all you have to do is hose it off.

            Now, this is pickups in general. We have a mid-2000s Ford Ranger, which is much smaller than the trucks all the big American manufacturers are selling today. A small pickup is a great utility tool. A giant one is a pointless penis extender.

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            1 day ago

            Go to the garden store, buy 20 bags of mulch, sling them on the back, drive home. Or go to the drive-in theater and lay blankets in the back! Or put a kayak in the back and leave the tailgate down.

            That’s my use case anyway.

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              23 hours ago

              Go camping and just throw all the dirty stuff in the back to clean at home. Take all the yard clippings to the mulcher without having to bag them or keep a pile on the curb. I have a hard tonneau cover so sometimes I like keeping my tools under there if I have to park in the city without worrying about people seeing the valuables through a window.

              People like to say truck owners never use their trucks but I use mine constantly. I’m camping at least 12-15 weekends per year, hauling yard equipment, kayaking, helping people move, and all in a midsized truck.

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                15 hours ago

                I don’t really hear people say that about tacomas or equally sized trucks. Moreso the bigger ones and usually they don’t have a scratch on them.

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              13 hours ago

              So… a fiesta then? How many times a year do you need to haul 20 bags of mulch? Do you not have a trailer hitch?

              Still not seeing the daily need for something so agricultural. I don’t drive a unimog to the grocery store.

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              21 hours ago

              Go to the garden store, buy 20 bags of mulch

              I can’t afford a car, but I’ve got a house with a yard that needs that much mulch?

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                7 hours ago

                I’m sorry? We have an acre that we’re converting from all grass to trees, shrubs, herbs, crops, and wildflowers.

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                    We got very lucky. A coworker was looking to get a bigger house when I started my job and we wantes to get out of an apartment. We didn’t use a realtor and paid $170k for 1200 sqft and an acre. We’re on the outskirts of a small college city so it’s fairly quiet but close enough for a 15 minute walk downtown.

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                  7 hours ago

                  You can get a flatbed pickup for $25k if it’s not brand new. And it does the job just as well as whatever this thing is.

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                    6 hours ago

                    So what? Should no basic, inexpensive vehicles be produced because you could get a nicer or more capable used one for a similar price?

                    Also, this one is electric. Sans the Cybertruck, there aren’t too many electric pickups out there, and probably not many on the used vehicle market.

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                  13 hours ago

                  People act like the home depot wont deliver, and that trailers don’t exist and that they have to daily a pickup so that they can move mulch once a year.

                  My brother in christ its a codpiece for insecure people. What you need is a fiesta, rented/borrowed/shared utility trailer and a removable tow ball.

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                    6 hours ago

                    codpiece for insecure people

                    Are you saying that the Slate being discussed in the article is a codpiece? I hardly think so. It’s a pretty damn basic vehicle.

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                    7 hours ago

                    Delivery of heavy things is costly you know. It simply comes down to: if you’re making use of it, it’s worth it overall. Our pickup was only 35k, same price as the Subaru we’d otherwise be buying. We’re outdoorsy and we’re converting our yard from grass to trees, shrubs, and wildflowers, so a pickup is getting its mileage. If you only need this stuff a few times a year then it’s certainly not worth it. People have different needs.

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            I love how riled you got them.

            Pickups are big, stupid and wasteful. And not pedestrian-friendly. Just get a van-based tipper truck if you really need to haul mulch or waste.

            The Americans have a pickup-truck based cognitive blind-spot and really cannot see it any other way.

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        1 day ago

        and the point of the truck is that it’s highly modular, if you want more seats it’s made to add them in

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          Okay, I won’t pass judgment until I see the actual real-life price of the truck with the modification for an additional row of seats and can compare that to other car models.