And I hope by now it is clear, I don’t go into conversations defending the purity of movements.
As I already said, I just debunked this in case you might bring it up. If you never were to do so, fine. Can we please move on? I see how this might have sounded like a personal attack but please believe me that it wasn’t.
The way I see things, the current wave of feminism is using the analytical tool of intersectionality which allows mistakes of the past to be addressed and not to be repeated.
This isn’t too far from what I’m saying either but there are two points I’d like to make:
Feminism isn’t a monolith. There are intersectional branches of feminism but there are also transphobic, racist, imperialistic, Zionist, … branches. That’s why I brought up TERFs as an example for bigoted feminists.
Your framing makes it seem like earlier feminists realized their errs and opened up. Which might not be wrong but neither is the focus correct. It was black (and queer) feminists that fought their way into the movement. Or rather they had to create their own movement that later fused with feminism. My point is that it’s the achievement of intersectionalism, not of feminism. This might seem irrelevant and it doesn’t really contradict what you said but I think it’s an important aspect you didn’t mention.
Your framing makes it seem like earlier feminists realized their errs and opened up
I really don’t know where you got that impression. I specifically talk about feminism, so that the focus is on an intergenerational time-frame.
My point is that it’s the achievement of intersectionalism, not of feminism
I am not familiar with the term intersectionalism. I know that intersectionality started as a term for legal analysis coined by Kimberlé Crenshaw and then was adopted by feminists because it created a helpful analytical framework.
As I already said, I just debunked this in case you might bring it up. If you never were to do so, fine. Can we please move on? I see how this might have sounded like a personal attack but please believe me that it wasn’t.
This isn’t too far from what I’m saying either but there are two points I’d like to make:
Feminism isn’t a monolith. There are intersectional branches of feminism but there are also transphobic, racist, imperialistic, Zionist, … branches. That’s why I brought up TERFs as an example for bigoted feminists.
Your framing makes it seem like earlier feminists realized their errs and opened up. Which might not be wrong but neither is the focus correct. It was black (and queer) feminists that fought their way into the movement. Or rather they had to create their own movement that later fused with feminism. My point is that it’s the achievement of intersectionalism, not of feminism. This might seem irrelevant and it doesn’t really contradict what you said but I think it’s an important aspect you didn’t mention.
I really don’t know where you got that impression. I specifically talk about feminism, so that the focus is on an intergenerational time-frame.
I am not familiar with the term intersectionalism. I know that intersectionality started as a term for legal analysis coined by Kimberlé Crenshaw and then was adopted by feminists because it created a helpful analytical framework.