I’m hoping the beeb wins and gets everything they want. It will signal to other entities he’s threatened with lawsuits that he’s a stuffed shirt (and how!) that has more dirt to hide than they do.
Oh, if that’s the case, when he loses, he’ll be chewing what’s left of his hair.
Trump HATES paying for anything.
I’ve been in the Trades since 1980 and for years, the running snarky aside about him went “If you want to know whether Trump pays his bills, ask any electrician in New Jersey…”
Apparently he’s gone through a lot of them and stiffed quite a few over the decades.
It’s worth a skim for anyone interested in these things; the number of ways he’s trying to cheat, play dirty, and just manipulate the process are overwhelming.
As the plaintiff, Trump chose it. As the BBC notes, the offending documentary was never shown in the US. Presumably they’ve chosen the venue where the supposed harm occurred, but as he’s scrambling desperately to avoid having to prove that harm occurred, who fucking knows, lol.
Afaik it’s typical in the US to file in a court that’s known to take the side of people or organizations similar to the plaintiff, or resolve similar cases in a manner beneficial to the plaintiff.
Yes, absolutely. There’s even a name for it. That certainly played no small part in the choice of venue when the plaintiffs were deciding where to file.
EDITED to add: I hadn’t known who the judge was when I wrote the above comments, but it turns out that this judge, who is a Trump appointee and a member of the Federalist Society, has now granted the emergency stay.
Hah, yeah. Today, anyway. Tomorrow it’ll be something else. It’s the magical $10 billion: if you skim through the linked filing what it amounts to is the BBC pointing out that for all the twisting and turning and various statements on the part of the plaintiff, they can’t or won’t produce the first bit of evidential documentation. He sued over this and that claim, but now everyone is just supposed to take his word for it.
At this point the plaintiff’s case basically comes down to, “Well it’s not this anymore but it’s still that so we don’t have to produce evidence for this, and we thought it was caused by this but no it’s really that so you don’t need to see that either, and we thought the harm was this but no it’s absolutely that, we mean it this time so you should just take our word for it,” but that magical $10 billion damage amount mysteriously stays exactly the same throughout. It’s a shell game on paper played by his lawyers.
In reality, if Mar-a-Lago lost $10 billion dollars, it’s just because it’s management was just that extraordinarily shitty. Same goes for the rest of that putrefying fuck’s “businesses” he’s managed to turn into black holes that suck cash with zero return. He did that to a fucking casino, lol. I think it’s his superpower (that, and clearing out the Oval Office with a shart on demand, no other president has shown that skill). He made the White House look like a goddamn Taiwanese buffet (nothing against Taiwanese buffets, just not what one wants to see in the halls of government). Dude can’t manage his own way out of a greasy Mickie D’s bag – but sure, it was all the BBC’s fault, lol.
Indeed. And I mean, the editing they used wasn’t even misleading except in small details. He said everything they quoted him saying, and his speech was a call to arms, it’s just he didn’t say it quite so directly.
But sure, ten billion in damages.
So few of these bullshit cases go to court, I hope the judge fucks Trump for abusing the process after coming to understand he isn’t using the court in good faith.
Not unless the judge rules that one side must cover the cost incurred by the other. Even then, they could drag out the payment over the course of years due to appeals or bankruptcy filings.
I’m hoping the beeb wins and gets everything they want. It will signal to other entities he’s threatened with lawsuits that he’s a stuffed shirt (and how!) that has more dirt to hide than they do.
UK law is much more open to discovery than the US, and losers pay. Betcha Trump didn’t know that.
Oh, if that’s the case, when he loses, he’ll be chewing what’s left of his hair.
Trump HATES paying for anything.
I’ve been in the Trades since 1980 and for years, the running snarky aside about him went “If you want to know whether Trump pays his bills, ask any electrician in New Jersey…”
Apparently he’s gone through a lot of them and stiffed quite a few over the decades.
This case is in the US courts.
Yep. That’s one of the BBC’s many arguments, that this case is being heard in the wrong place (Florida Southern District, Miami):
It’s worth a skim for anyone interested in these things; the number of ways he’s trying to cheat, play dirty, and just manipulate the process are overwhelming.
Oh a Florida Southern District court? Wonder why they chose that location.
As the plaintiff, Trump chose it. As the BBC notes, the offending documentary was never shown in the US. Presumably they’ve chosen the venue where the supposed harm occurred, but as he’s scrambling desperately to avoid having to prove that harm occurred, who fucking knows, lol.
Afaik it’s typical in the US to file in a court that’s known to take the side of people or organizations similar to the plaintiff, or resolve similar cases in a manner beneficial to the plaintiff.
Yes, absolutely. There’s even a name for it. That certainly played no small part in the choice of venue when the plaintiffs were deciding where to file.
EDITED to add: I hadn’t known who the judge was when I wrote the above comments, but it turns out that this judge, who is a Trump appointee and a member of the Federalist Society, has now granted the emergency stay.
This is the order:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.703382/gov.uscourts.flsd.703382.116.0.pdf
Mar a Lago. Mar a Lago lost 10 billion dollars of valuation due to the documentary!
Hah, yeah. Today, anyway. Tomorrow it’ll be something else. It’s the magical $10 billion: if you skim through the linked filing what it amounts to is the BBC pointing out that for all the twisting and turning and various statements on the part of the plaintiff, they can’t or won’t produce the first bit of evidential documentation. He sued over this and that claim, but now everyone is just supposed to take his word for it.
At this point the plaintiff’s case basically comes down to, “Well it’s not this anymore but it’s still that so we don’t have to produce evidence for this, and we thought it was caused by this but no it’s really that so you don’t need to see that either, and we thought the harm was this but no it’s absolutely that, we mean it this time so you should just take our word for it,” but that magical $10 billion damage amount mysteriously stays exactly the same throughout. It’s a shell game on paper played by his lawyers.
In reality, if Mar-a-Lago lost $10 billion dollars, it’s just because it’s management was just that extraordinarily shitty. Same goes for the rest of that putrefying fuck’s “businesses” he’s managed to turn into black holes that suck cash with zero return. He did that to a fucking casino, lol. I think it’s his superpower (that, and clearing out the Oval Office with a shart on demand, no other president has shown that skill). He made the White House look like a goddamn Taiwanese buffet (nothing against Taiwanese buffets, just not what one wants to see in the halls of government). Dude can’t manage his own way out of a greasy Mickie D’s bag – but sure, it was all the BBC’s fault, lol.
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Indeed. And I mean, the editing they used wasn’t even misleading except in small details. He said everything they quoted him saying, and his speech was a call to arms, it’s just he didn’t say it quite so directly.
But sure, ten billion in damages.
So few of these bullshit cases go to court, I hope the judge fucks Trump for abusing the process after coming to understand he isn’t using the court in good faith.
What in the US the loser doesn’t pay?
Not unless the judge rules that one side must cover the cost incurred by the other. Even then, they could drag out the payment over the course of years due to appeals or bankruptcy filings.
That’s insane
Nope. And there is no mediation, which is why the US is full of ambulance chasers and everyone sues everyone.