• tigermountain@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    As an old person I can also say that old people don’t trust AI, or the leaders of those companies, or the current administration…

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      15 hours ago

      or the leaders of those companies

      This is key. Zuc put tape over his laptop webcams, cause they know this invasion of privacy is endemic to everything nowadays.

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      As an old person who knows a lot of old people and has to deal with a lot of other old people, you’re in a bubble. Nothing wrong with that, of course, and you may already be aware.

      By and large, early gen X and older have a very difficult time discerning what materials are AI generated. Then when you get to a certain age range, maybe 70+, AI to much of that crowd is just another buzzword they know nothing about.

      Now, in the pedantic sense of the word “increasingly”, if literally one more old person is against AI or doesn’t trust AI compared to last year, then that’s increasing. But on the whole, I’m not seeing it. In fact, as AI gets “better” and harder to detect, I’m finding that more people just go with it. You basically end up with camps of “the person who accuses everything of being AI”, “the person who has no clue what’s what and doesn’t care”, and “the person who can’t tell if something is AI regardless of how obvious it is”.

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      Old people were the biggest voter block FOR the current (US) administration. You might not like it, but “old people” certainly have some other opinions.

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          20 hours ago

          Sorry, I’ve only got this really broad brush. Actually it’s more like a firecracker in a paint tin.

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        Sure. All people have their own opinions. Grouping people by a specific trait doesn’t give you a monolith that shares the same opinions on everything. There are Blacks, Latinos, Gays, and Trans for Trump.

        The comment was refuting the insinuation in the headline that only young people feel this way because older people are stupid and awful. Somehow while trying to appear to be welcoming and not discriminate against minorities, the internet has become full of ageist discrimination. Age is another trait people can’t control or change. Discriminating or mocking people based on that is as wrong as doing the same based on skin color or sexuality.

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          Older people aren’t stupid and awful, they are just generally more set in their ways, and factually ARE more vulnerable to misinformation and lies, which is why they’re the most vulnerable to scams.

          The previous generation, at least in America, was far more repressed and had far less access to information than we do today, which results in more narrow-minded beliefs. Not all old people are like this, but the comment you’re talking about said “old people don’t trust ai” which is not true. Old people as a group do, this person as an individual in that group does not.

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            Old people as a group don’t exist. There is no monolith based on simple traits like age, or race, or gender. While more members of one specific group sharing any of these traits can be likely to trust or mistrust or agree with anything, boiling them down to a singular opinion or mental state is always wrong. It’s discriminatory.

            You saying old people as a group do trust AI is as fucked up as saying that black people as a group do love watermelon.

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              All groupings are arbitrary, it just (sometimes) provides utility to group on some shared attributes. It would be more accurate to say boomers trust ai more, not because they’re necessarily stupider (though lead poisoning was extremely common through leaded gasoline), but being older does mean you had less access to multiculturalism, less inundation with scams and technology growing up, and more propaganda that is harder to find counterpoints to.

              It’s fully accurate to say “older people generally are more close-minded and trust AI more” without that being an attack on any particular old person. That’s a reality old people and young people need to be aware of, whether it’s for an older person to reflect if that’s happening to them, or a younger person to help an older person with.

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                It’s fully accurate to say “older people generally are more close-minded and trust AI more” without that being an attack on any particular old person.

                Depending on the area you live in and the the total range of the statistics it can be fully accurate to say that “black people generally love watermelon and fried chicken and are more likely to steal your bike” and for that to not be an attack on any individual person, but also fuck you. Get it? Just because statistics show a thing doesn’t mean you’re not being a piece of shit for using those statistics to denigrate a massive group of people.

                Using statistics chosen because they do denigrate a group of people and then acting like it’s not your fault these are what the statistics show is pretty common from hater assholes towards any group.

                It would be more accurate to say boomers trust ai more, not because they’re necessarily stupider (though lead poisoning was extremely common through leaded gasoline)

                This one is fantastic, since several studies have come out showing that Gen Z is the first generation to be less cognitively capable than the one that came before it. They don’t even have leaded gasoline to point to as an excuse. Somehow I don’t think they’d be super happy to see the internet flooded with people assuming anyone in that age range is an idiot.

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      No, that can’t be. The internet has told me that old people are stupid and love Trump and fascism and it’s totally acceptable to mock and hate people based on their age even though they have no control of their age.

      The internet assures me it’s a bastion of welcoming care for all, so the hate against old people must be universally deserved. It’s not like the good people of the internet would just latch on to whatever trends they think will be supported and make them look like good people while allowing them to vomit hate at anyone they in their infinite wisdom determine to be bad people.

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      All my members hate fucking AI and majority of them are over 60. Hell one had me take his payment because he flat out wasn’t going let a clanker take it. Dont trust the automated system rather talk to a human.

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      I’m a retired programmer and I always regretted not getting into AI (like, developing it rather than making use of it) because I think I could have made significant contributions. Now I’m glad I never did because I’ll never have to deal with the guilt of having made Terminator a reality.

      I’ll just have to deal with Terminator is all. :(

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      I don’t know man, I’m a fairly old person and I’m constantly surrounded by people who seem unable to think without it.

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      In reviewing your message, it seems like you’ve been faced with some difficulties because of AI. But as young people, I believe AI is the future of humans. We should develop and improve AI in various types of parts, even though the current result is not as good as we expected initially.