Donald Trump on Friday downplayed the toll on American sailors enduring nearly nine months at sea on the USS Abraham Lincoln as concerns escalated about mental health and supply issues aboard the aircraft carrier supporting U.S. operations against Iran.
In a brief exchange with reporters before flying to New York for an event to highlight falling violent crime rates across the U.S., Trump refuted that family members have raised concerns about the deployment’s length and even said that the deployment — which includes a record-setting uninterrupted time at sea of more than 240 days — is “not nearly long enough.”
I say this is a former army officer. The military will vote for another Republican as long as that Republican is standing up there mouthing thank the troops bullshit. Fuck Trump fuck everybody that voted for this mother fucker.
I think you spelled “child fucker” incorrectly.
rapist*
Let’s not make the mistake of thinking that once Trump is dead and gone our problems will be over. Trump is an incompetent fool but there are quite a few very smart people behind him now, and there will continue to be these people when he is either dead or out of office that will be doing everything in their power to sustain aspects of this administration they find useful.
True. Very true.
But we’ll never have to hear this low IQ rapist pedo’s dipshit opinions ever again. And that’ll be real nice. Imagine not hearing that flatulent voice anymore. Imagine not seeing his redneck name printed everywhere. Gonna be supreme.
As far as functionally, we may get lucky and see a lot of his cultists refrain from voting in the future cuz the good ol’ days are gone and no one else is living up to their cult leader desires.
Our problems won’t nearly be over, but a dangerous cult leader will be worm food, and that’s a real good thing.
If those people were capable then they’d be in power without a useful idiot like DJT. Once DJT is dead the low IQ morons that plague this country will go back to not participating in elections like they did prior to 2016.
will go back to not participating in elections like they did prior to 2016.
As much as I wish this to be the case - there are too many con-men/women that have seen what trump has done and how much money he as stolen from taxpayers that there will now always be some crazy ass candidate that will try to anger up the stupids to vote for them.
Shoot the swamp america, do yourselves a favour.
“Well yeah this sucks but the Fox News playing 24/7 in the commissary tells me that Democrats want to turn my kids trans so I guess I still have to vote for Republicans”
-95% of the military
The military is more democratic than you think… it leans Republican significantly, but only about 2:1.
I wonder if most of the enlisted are the boot lickers and when you get to being a CO you have to develop your understanding of the world and geopolitics so you have more exposure to truth of lies.
Funny enough, typically the opposite.
The enlisted corps is a much more racially, ethnically, and financially diverse corps than the officer corps. Enlisted across the active duty is 66% white, 34% minority group, with 22% Hispanic or Latino, according to the most recent annual demographic release (2024). For officers it is 74% white and 26% minority, with only 10% Hispanic or Latino. This tends to bring in more diverse opinions as well. Officers tend to come from heavily white and upper-middle class households, which skew Republican. Enlisted come from all over, and more closely mirror the general population.
The enlisted corps also skews much younger than the officer corps, due to the revolving nature of enlistment. Most guys do a single 4-6 year enlistment and get out, while most officers are career. Only 25-40% of enlisted re-up, and only 10-12% make it to 20 years, while 60-70% of officers go beyond their initial contract, and 45-50% make it to 20 years. The average age of an enlisted troop is 27.4 years old, with 49.2% being 25 or younger and only 5.1% being over 41. For officers the average age is 34.3, with 22.4% being above the age of 41.
You’re also MUCH more intermingled in the enlisted corps. You’re in forced proximity to people that are diverse and get exposed to diverse opinions, whereas the officer corps generally stick to their own kind away from the enlisted and stay insulated.
That ends up resulting in officers being much more reliably Republican, and Republican specifically, than enlisted. Enlisted still skew conservative, but there are far more registered Democrats in the enlisted corps, and the enlisted are FAR more likely to identify as independent rather than with either party. Officers skew more conservative AND identify as Republican more than independent.
Got any links to peruse? THis is interesting.
https://demographics.militaryonesource.mil/chapter-2-active-duty-personnel/
Military demographics.
Report showing that enlisted tend to swing independent more than officers.
Also, my own lived experience. I was enlisted, my father in law was a career officer. I married his daughter when I was just a young junior enlisted guy so I have spent a lot of time around both enlisted and officers, all the way up to General level.
Thank you for the resources. I greatly appreciate it.
I was enlisted and served with plenty of guys who think like me. Probably more who don’t, but I wasn’t alone in my left leaning. And this was the infantry, where you’d probably expect guys to lean more right.
Can we please impeach this fuckass alreafy
You hear that, navy boys? Time for mutiny. He’s not going to send you home.
Some of you may die but, that’s a sacrifice I am willing to make.
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if Donald Trump is a cartoon character who escaped from the silver screen…
The Roy Cohn Shuffle: never admit you’re wrong, just keep doubling down.
I really hope the current military is seeing this, as well as all those vets who have to wear grunt style tshirts everywhere they go and plaster veteran/military decals all over their cars.
he. Does. NOT. Care. About. YOU!
That ship should have sailed when he mocked John McCain, a guy that spent 6 years in a POW camp after being shot down over Vietnam. In a sane world, he’d lose the military vote right then and there, forever.
In a sane world the vets who actually give a shit would have jumped ship when the pedo pissed all over the sanctity of Arlington, and had his people assault an Army employee, for a photo op
It’s a very, very mad world we live in
I really hope the current military is seeing this
There’s a pretty long list of occasions where Trump has insulted the military as a whole as well as individual members of the military and it appears the average military service member either isn’t aware or is neck deep in the cult so Dear Leader is always right.
I don’t think the kind of vets that wear grunt style and have bumper srickers about them being veterans were ever in a position to experience deployment.
Doesn’t matter if it’s made an official holiday by the government. The people of this nation (world) are gonna make it a national (international) holiday by sheer force of will.
I’ll celebrate it like Christmas every year. I’ll call in sick every year on the day if I have to.
Every single one of them that voted for Trump or didn’t vote, got what they deserve. They voted for the leopard eating faces, and now the leopard is on them.
The ones that voted against Trump are the only ones I can really feel sorry for.
Fuck Americans that failed to vote against Trump.Trump is a malignant narcissist, and that was very clear before the election, it was also clear before he was elected the first time.
If you want a malignant narcissist as leader of your country, you are not right in the head.There’s no way they could have known. It’s not like he had a history going back into the 70s and 60s of being a… oh, yeah. He did.
You know the joke in Back to the Future where Marty tells Doc the President is Reagan, and he says incredulously, “What? The actor?” Well, imagine going back to any point in the latter 20th century and telling someone that Trump will be President. Anyone would laugh, no matter what party affiliation. Seems we all had standards back then, even if they were still low.
The reason is simply because he’s the perfect tool that the Southern Strategy dreamed of. They never had an idea it would work so well.
They knew Trump was a scumbag back when they made Back to the Future 2! You think this…
…was a coincidence?!
Hell, the Simpsons made fun of the idea.
Spy magazine back in the '80s used to have an annual “10 worst people, places and things” issue. Trump always made the list, although it was more of an NYC-centric thing. Each listee always had a “mitigating factors” item and Trump’s was always “at least he’s not in politics”. :(
My favorite bit from back then was that Trump once offered to pay for the funeral of a child who had been killed by a bear, and then reneged on the offer.
The DNC pretty much handed him 2016, and Biden handed him 2024.
The two parties are both trash, and the citizens just rolling over and taking it up the ass, doesn’t help.
Trump still lost the majority the first time and got under 50% the second time. USA’s insane election system caused much of it, as well as a failure of the campaigns to account for how it would play out in the uncertain states.
2024 was much more a media propaganda problem, although I agree they didn’t do enough to push back. They could’ve used the presidency to force the message to be delivered along with evidence of Trump’s corruption and they decided to “play nice” against the cheater
There’s no way they could have known.
They couldn’t have known an obvious malignant narcissist would behave like a malignant narcissist? Is that really your claim?
For that to be true, you’d have to be so stupid you wouldn’t be able to find the polling station either.Edit:
It doesn’t change anything that he quotes a movie, he picked that quote to make that point. And it is simply wrong.Well, yes, people can be that stupid. Also, how did you read all of what I posted and not realize it was sarcasm? Or did you see the first few words and rage post?
You’re going to need this.
Not for the first replies. But if they double down, then sure, let them have their “victory”. The chain of messages tells the real story.
Yeah, maybe you were right. Good lord.
Yeah, when I saw “I don’t even know what Southern Strategy means” I knew you were in for a ride.
No you have to agree with the psychopath to not be able to see it, and if you agree, you are no better yourself.
Only a psychopath don’t recognize a psychopath. And Malignant Narcissist is the worst kind of Psychopath there is.Also it doesn’t look like sarcasm to me, quoting a movie is not sarcasm.
And Reagan is irrelevant to American voters voting for an obvious psychopath. For instance the situation with Russia was completely different. And Reagan actually had coherent policies.
Also Emmett Browns surprise is acting. It is not real.You should look it up. It will make you realize how deep this goes. Can’t help you with the rest, it was pretty clear, unless you also don’t understand the movie reference. Which is entirely possible, it’s amazing how many memes are shared by people these days who are clueless on the origins. A true loss.
Edit:
Yes I know the movie, I just don’t see how it’s relevant. You quoted that because you mean it.There’s no way they could have known
I doesn’t change anything that you are quoting a movie where the statement may have been correct.
In the context you use it here it is simply wrong.
In general it takes a psychopath to not detect an obvious psychopath consistently behaving like a psychopath, that’s a fact.I’m sorry that you missed many levels of understanding my original post. I wish you could have just asked for clarification instead of the diatribe of anger. Might have made you appreciate the meaning. You seem to have some issues understanding others in this message thread too. Maybe step back a second and take a breath.
And Reagan actually had coherent policies.
Not really, he was more amenable than Trump is to having handlers. And the policies he implemented caused lasting damage to the American system and to its people. For example, trickle-down economics was utter incoherent evidence-free bullshit that happened to make the rich richer at the expense of everyone else. Reagan was not too bright and had an utter lack of curiosity, was a racist homophobe, and was quite happy to be a pitchman. He was also a shameless liar, though not to Trump’s pathological extent.
Trickle down economics were not incoherent, they were a lie. Reagan did not change policy every other week like Trump does.
I do not agree with Reagans policies, but it was far more than just listening more to his advisors, it was also choosing advisors that were actually capable.
So I maintain that Reagans policies were definitely way way more coherent AND consistent than what we see with Trump. And his strategy to pressure Soviet Union actually worked, Soviet Union collapsed because they couldn’t keep up, and their attempt to do it, collapsed their economy.Reagan also didn’t ruin relations with allies, but he did introduce a lot of policies that are bad for the middle and especially lower income brackets.
Did you just stop reading that comment after the first sentence?
Don’t really feel sorry for anyone willing to fight in wars…
Ukraine is fighting for their right to live as Ukrainians. They have to defend themselves to avoid genocide.
I can not respect you if you don’t support the right for Ukraine to exist.I deliberately phrased it such that you could not do that and you still did it. Do you know what “willing” means? Defensive wars are not willing on the defenders part…
Willing to fight to defend yourself is still willing to fight.
I think you are confusing the words willing and voluntarily.The sheer amount of dick-twisting you’re performing to avoid just saying “okay sorry you’re right I misunderstood / didn’t read”
Are you really claiming I didn’t read 1 short line of text?
People unwilling to go to war normally means totally unwilling, as in pacifists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PacifismNow please stop being an idiot, and admit you made a poorly formulated comment, that doesn’t mean what you thought it means.
Of course they’re willing - that makes no sense.
Agreed because there are also people in Ukraine who are unwilling to fight despite it being a defensive war for them.
Just be glad you haven’t been forced to make that choice.
Dont forget that the poverty is by design.
Entire states are pushed into poverty and shit education to feed the US military machine.
That’s not an excuse to sign up to be in the military.
Stop the bullshit.
Yes the system is built to proliferate poverty and wage slavery.
That doesn’t mean becoming a soldier for the most corrupt nation and government is their only choice. Fuck that lie.
Not the only, but a very attractive one. You don’t need any tools or skills, they will pay for all your relocation, training, food, housing, and you get the TSP and GI Bill.
If it wasn’t for the whole war thing, it’d be damn near a fairly good implementation of socialism.
Except for the role of being an imperialist soldier, a cog in the murderous machine. Sure.
You have to know that’s not in the brochure or spiel they give to these impoverished kids who barely have enough of an education to read a whole sentence.
And even if it was, it’s not like they would have any of the tools to even start understanding the concept after 18 years of living under US conservative media as the sole source of information and perspective.
These kids sign up literally not knowing any better, for the promise of something better on the other end. It’s stupid to suggest they’re doing it to choose to advance American imperialism after surveying all other options and considering the moral and tangible outcomes of all the choices they think they have at 18 years old.
You’re right. It’s a tempting prospect when college isn’t an option. It really is socialism on the surface:
They’ll take you no matter your existing skills or education, teach you discipline and more skills, push you into peak physical condition, constant opportunities for learning, clear opportunities for advancement, and they’ll make you feel like you’re part of something. Plus you get out and the government promises to take care of you.
(Or betray you entirely. Veterans have such split experiences here, it seems like!)
The rest of the country says “Lol no bachelor’s and 6 years experience? Kick rocks and be poor, loser. Lol.”
Thanks to all the DoD (oh sorry “DoW” /s) funded entertainment propaganda, play any Call of Duty game (especially the fun ones) and you’ll start to get that feeling that to be a soldier is to have purpose, to fight evil, to become something more.
It’s freaking dangerous. But heck yeah it’s attractive as any deal with the devil is. I refuse to swear an oath to any authority but my Creator, but I’d be lying if I didn’t sometimes entertain the notion that I could like, monitor weather in Space Force or something for 4 years and reap tons of benefits.
…But yeah, look who’s in charge. Terrifying. I’m SO GLAD I’ve stayed far away.
He’s so stupid. He just walks into these PR disasters unforced because he can’t come up with something better.
Just wax lyrical about the dedication of your soldiers and how thankful the USA is for them to carry out this important mission. It would be so easy.
Walking headlong into PR disasters and getting away with it is part of the flex of fascism. It’s the same for most of their hypocrisy and ‘rules for thee’ mentality.
Also, he is going senile, my grandma also got weirdly angry at everybody and everything right before she started to forget who we were, and eventually who she was.
It’s a weird benefit of populist, anti-establishment candidates.
They’re just not held to the same standards and their supporters are very dismissive of any wrong doing.
It’s the same with Farage in the UK. We have a populist Pauline Hanson here in Australia who’s the same.
I don’t really have any plausible explanation.
I don’t really have any plausible explanation
Far too many people want simple (and therefore simplistic) answers to complex problems.
And that’s exactly what populists offer them.
Of course, in the real world, complex problems never have simple solutions that actually work.
And, usually, those simple solutions cause more problems than they solve.
Yes, but that doesn’t explain why populists get a free pass on their bullshit. For example, Trump’s obvious connection with a paedophile ring.
Because nobody calls their bluff.
Well, I’m not sure that’s the correct use of the term but even if it were, my question is: why does nobody do that?
my question is: why does nobody do that?
That’s the part I don’t get too.
It seems like nobody has ever tried to stop the guy. The more he gets away with, the more shit he tries.
Some of the people supporting Trump own most of the US media outlets. Media consolidation in the UK is just as bad, maybe worse.
Thats a salient point. It’s the same everywhere. Nutty conservatives control the media.
That said, some of these stories kind of carry themselves. Like does the Trump / Epstein stuff really need to be on Fox news? His base is aware of the story they just don’t care.
Authoritarian followers do not introspect, and they compartmentalise their beliefs to sustain contradiction. They are quick to forget the insults and failures of the dear leader, who tends to be deep into dark triad territory and is knowingly exploiting their collective frailty.
my grandma also got weirdly angry at everybody and everything right before she started to forget who we were, and eventually who she was
This is depressing. My elderly mother gets enraged whenever someone uses one of her precious Revereware copper-bottomed pots. I’m assuming it’s a precursor to Alzheimer’s, which her younger sister already died from.
Unless I know you’re a competent cook, if you mess with my copper-bottomed pots or my good kitchen knives, I’ll rip you a spare one. As far as I can tell, I don’t have dementia (but if I did, I might not know, I suppose). I’m just an ornery sumbitch. I’d have done the same thing 40 years ago, too.
I am sorry to hear that. It is never easy to watch somebody slip away. I feel for you.
During COVID, i did 195 days on an out of service cruise ship. The isolation was unreal.
Historically it always turns out well when you alienate the military.
How much you wanna bet the majority of personnel on that aircraft carrier would still happily vote for trump’s successor (Vance? Trump again, illegally? A festering maggotty sack of feces? Anyone with an [R] next to their name?) in 2028?
MAGA people never learn.
As soon as he’s out, his wannabe successors will put all the things they can’t defend on his mental decline. Once elected, they’ll do exactly the same things.
Once elected, they’ll do exactly the same things.
Only slightly quieter and in a less chaotic manner.
A lot of the military loves deployments. You get extra pay that’s untaxed, which help you buy that new jeep renegade. Deployments also allow you to get over the dreaded e6 hump and become a platoon leader.
This is what you get for electing a weakling with bone spurs.
It says a lot that conservatives/regressives chose a felon rapist pedo weakling as the person to represent them.
