Wolfe and his fiancée, who witnessed the alleged assault, believe the attack was related to Wolfe being transgender, according to court documents.
Transgender people seem to tend to be the VICTIM of crimes, not the perpetrator.
The perpetrators seem to tend to be the people claiming that transgender people are perpetrators.
This is so completely fucked. I stand in solidarity with you, my Trans friends. No one should have to be frightened in their own home, with the exception of bigots who would do harm to others.
With a hatchet???
First degree assault? Where “hate crime”? Where “attempted murder with a deadly weapon”? What the shit is even going on
I can’t finish this article, it’s horrific.
If I’m looking for a charitable interpretation, this may be just the easiest crime to book him on. Actual charges can be changed later. I could see this maybe being the easiest charge to book him on, maybe the one that requires the least proof on intent. The goal initially is not to make the charge fit the crime, but to just get the guy in custody as quickly and easily as possible. Though this is admittedly a deliberately charitable interpretation.
The goal initially is not to make the charge fit the crime, but to just get the guy in custody as quickly and easily as possible.
Court records show Jones posted $5,000 bond and is now detained in a hospital where he will remain until discharged from treatment.
After treatment, a bench warrant will be served, documents say.
Maybe the bond just allows him to be moved between hospitals for treatment if necessary? I’m not familiar with Washington state law, but my general experience having worked for local government in the past is that he will most likely be charged with felony offenses and brought for indictment on those, and that’s what the bench warrant is for.
Hate crime is intention based so it’s rarely a thing booked on the scene when the cops roll up on two guys fighting in the front yard. It’s up to the rest of the system to do the right thing unfortunately
Fucking for real! This is at bare minimum a slam dunk second degree case, and still easily a first.
Yeah, I’m not a fan of the transgender shit, but people are God damn nuts. I can’t imagine hating something that barely if at all effects your life making you pissed enough to attack someone. It’s like you don’t like vanilla ice cream, so much so you attack the person in front of you in line. It’s absurd.
fuck you go back to reddit or fox news or whatever cesspool you came from
Most of us just wanna be left alone to live our lives, we’re not a fan of being targetted in the media constantly either. You could say I’m not a fan of all the transgender shit everywhere either. But it’s going to continue until either they kill us all or these obsessed republican freaks get removed from office.
I mean, transitioning really isn’t something that is palatable to the main populace, like, HRT and SRS are just inconceivable to your average Tom, Dick, or Harry. But right wing media broadcasts the buisiness of 1-3% of the populace to the world, and floods the zone with misinfo. And unlike the fact that the queer population is around ~10% so even conservative families may have a gay family member, Trans people are often cut off so its harder to know a trans person to get actual info.
And even when that is the case, the flood of misinfo day in and out plus the promise that conversion therapy (torture) will simply ‘fix’ your child so you don’t have to actually have a trans kid makes it so much harder to advocate for them.
He said some might say he should remove the pride flags to prevent vandalism.
“I don’t have to have pride flags out, but I feel like as a transgender man, when I put pride flags out, it’s not just saying this is who I am,” Wolfe said. “It’s telling other people in my community there are people here just like you and you can feel safe in this neighborhood. Well, I mean obviously that’s not really the case.”
That’s heartbreaking
Solidarity brother
I’ve been warning folks for years that right-wing media has been slowly convincing their sheep to accept violence against perceived leftists. We need to be prepared for that inevitability.
It’s very much present tense. Time to stop warning people and start arming them.
I’m armed. I just know how staunchly against it many leftists are.
Nah, you’re not leftist if you’re against guns; that’s liberalism.
Yeah they are ramping up the dehumanizarion which leads to genocide.
If you are not white they might keep you around for labor. If you are a white woman, they might keep you around to have children.
No guarantees for any of us if the white nationalists get their way. Gilead for all.
I started preparing in 2020. Should have started sooner. Practice with your weapons people.
Every American reading this.
Remember your country voted for this kind of violence. You openly wanted this.
Not sure how I’m supposed to feel reading this as a transgender American who specifically voted against this. Thanks, I know??
Your country voted for this. Not you. My gf is American and trans and didn’t vote for this, but she is the first to admit her country failed her.
But if you want to take offence to the fact 2/3rds of your country allowed this to happen, that’s on you, I guess. She’s been banned from her football league. She gets harassed by people on the street. I hear about it way too often. She knows her country fucking sucks because of the population who allowed it. America allowed this to happen. America voted for this. And it’s fucking disgusting and your country should be ashamed.
You in my original comment is America. You as a country voted for this.
While they were grappling on the front lawn, Wolfe said he was able to wrap his leg around Jones’ leg, grabbed either end of the bat and pressed it against his neck, causing him to pass out.
While they were on the ground, Wolfe said Jones asked him if he could say something. He said Jones’ comments didn’t make a ton of sense, but he told Wolfe he was drunk and that he was looking for a certain address that Wolfe learned later was a business.
What in the fuck… what a bizarre ending to this melee. Glad the victim is in one piece.
It was an accidental attempted murder. A mistaken identity assault.
I live in Spokane. I was recently shooting the shit with a stranger, 50-something guy. Not five minutes into the convo I had to learn about how he’d re-discovered his “T”(estosterone) as a result of some specific exercises and how he felt better than ever as a result. I then heard some ordinary removed about “kids these days” (being disrespectful) and then on to a grouse about how public school teachers were targeting young students to convince them that they were the opposite of their birth sex … in other words, to “turn them trans”. He had grandkids, and these teachers were a threat to them. At this point I was just thinking “WTF” and turned on the grayrocking machine, but later started to wonder where all this came from (the T hobby, disrespect, trans conspiracies) and all I could think of was online “influencers” of some kind. The guy looked/seemed pretty “normal”, but apparently was a host to various kinds of angers that could be channeled, by the right forces, into very specific beliefs and quite possibly, actions.
Yeah. Those guys? Those guys end up abusers, assaulters, and murderers and are extremely dangerous. Don’t grayrock those guys and don’t turn your back, EVER. People like that are terrifying and extremely dangerous.
Those are the people who try to ruin and end your life and your loved ones lives from the shadows and in the light with a gang of domestic terrorists.
I agree, but disagree about the grey rocking, that is entirely recommended when dealing with narcissistic and worse variations.
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I’m aware. But there’s projection and there’s reality.
what the fuck word is removed referring to here
.ml moment
‘bullshit’ was my assumption
That’s odd. I don’t remember what word I used there but whatever it was I’d be surprised if it was censorship-worthy. b.i.t.c.h.i.n.g maybe?
Your instance does filter out the word ‘bitch’, under the stance that it’s commonly used as a gendered slur iirc.
Which is fine and all but the implementation is utterly context-less word matching.
What other context is there beyond sexism?
The word is complaining. Bitching is a negative connotation about how women complain.
I think you may have tapped on the wrong comment to reply to, and want Viking, the one reply below me.
They’re the one with a direct and clear answer to the question you’re posing to me.
But because I like irony, one of the answers is your context.
You literally wouldn’t be able to try to educate me on the historical connotations of the word and why its usage should rightfully be avoided in all possible cases, if your education was [removed].
I’d argue that it’s NOT fine, since the only POSSIBLE way to automatically filter out specific words instance-wide IS context-less word matching.
With one or two obvious exceptions, no word is offensive regardless of context, and draconian censorship like that is classic authoritarian overreach that does no good and a hell of a lot of bad.
Tl;dr: algorithmically assuming the worst possible use of a word is a cunty thing to do.
Yeah.
There was a hidden asterisk on my “that’s fine and all”.
This comment carries no rebuttal to your point.
I just have better things to do with my day than invite commentary from .ml, generally speaking.
I just have better things to do with my day than invite commentary from .ml, generally speaking.
Me too. I just keep forgetting how not worth it it is 🤦🏻😄
grayrocking
TIL, there’s a name for like 85% of my persona.
Haha. Same!!!
Holy fuck, I’m impressed he survived
Own a gun and use it.
Terrible advice.
So is not defending yourself from attempted murder fool
As an actual trans woman, let me lay out the actual decision you have to make as a trans woman when deciding whether to carry for self defense. (I know the story had a trans guy, but I’ll speak from my perspective.)
I know that first of all, I have had dark times in my life, times I am now very glad I did not have access to a firearm. But beyond that, even using a gun in a true self defense situation is a Faustian bargain.
If I were to use a gun in self defense, I would almost certainly face charges regardless of the actual circumstances involved. The system really doesn’t like it when minorities use lethal force to defend themselves. Self defense situations are never clean. There’s always something they can charge you with if they really want to.
I can hear your objection already, “better judged by twelve than carried by six!” you say. First, juries don’t treat minorities defending themselves either. A third of the jurors will assume I’m a cannibalistic pedophile simply by default. But even if I can miraculously get a fair trial, being judged by twelve may still not be the better outcome.
Look up v-coding. In short, trans women tend to get sent to male prisons, regardless of the state of our identity or anatomy. Like I transitioned physically as far as it is possible for one to do so. I don’t even have male anatomy at all. My legal identity was charged years ago, and random strangers never read me as anything other than a middle aged woman. None of this matters. In many states in the union I would be sent to a men’s prison, simply because of what body I was born with. And once in prison, the norm is daily sexual assault and rape by prisoners and guards alike.
Even if I’m able to beat the charges, I’ll still realistically be looking at months in prison subject to daily sexual assault and rape.
Honestly, I’m not sure being carried by six is the worse option. Sorry, but I would rather take my chances and do everything I can to get away. I think I would prefer death over the consequences of actually using a firearm in even legitimate self defense.
Me an my Trans friend both choose the gun, and she chooses life over death even if the state will rig things against them, the odds you will out running an assailent are slim by odds (running from a a knife wielder actually doesn’t often work out well), to each their own, we choose fight.
You are far, far more likely to be killed by your own gun than murdered. Guns are a tremendously bad idea.
Note that the centrist fails to spell out what this statistic means and instead says “killed by your own gun” as if a mean ghost posesses the gun and it sprouts legs and beats you to death
an interpretation that isn’t a deliberate lie would look something like this: the presence of a gun in a home makes attempted suicides and domestic violence more likely to be fatal, and also sometimes correlates with (not causes) increased threat of violence and decreased access to safety from the police
and none of those problems (except for the suicide one, obviously remove your access to guns if that seems like an attractive option at all) is fixed by not getting a gun
I wonder what the statistics since he took office again how attacks on LEGBT+ and left leaning people have been. We’re reaching a point where the left needs to arm up to defend themselves from a violent reactionary wing of the country like said reactionaries needed it to defend themselves.
I think it’d also be important to break down statistics based on political ideology anymore with firearms. I have a different mentality and belief in what owning a firearm is as opposed to your typical reactionary.
listen, those are great ideas, but this guy is not going to investigate them
Yeah, probably not, but it’d be interesting statistics none the less.
Of course it’s solved by not getting a gun - the guns in suicide and domestic violence don’t materialize on their own.
how many suicides do you think the average person is involved in
do you think that if x% of people attempt suicide, that your individual chance of attempting suicide is x%
I think the chances of someone successfully committing suicide dramatically increases if they have access to a gun.
Out of curiosity, how do those stats look if you exclude white cis males?
I’m not sure. I’d have to look that up.
Sadly I’m not surprised. I’m in a blue state and still get hate and threats.
Even in blue states there can be deeply red districts. Just like red states can still have blue cities.
even a blue area there can be people freaking out being near lgbtq+ or perception of one.
That’s because there’s still like a 5-15% republican minority in those areas. I doubt those people freaking out are progressives.
true i noticed it mostly the several group that is right leaning. specially men being close to other men on a bus, but they have no problems being close to a women stranger.
Jesus Christ dude, I’m glad he’s ok, that’s fucking insane what happened there
Thanks for enabling this kind of environment, non-voters.
You empower the bigots with your inaction.
before blaming non voters… id blame votera who voted for this, and are still in support of it.
a lot of them are powerful and own media networks, so they can influence others
Spokane is, at best, purple. Recent congressional elections had one Republican and around 10 Democrats or independents. That sycophant Baumgartner won again. Washington may have been the only state that went more blue during the last presidential election, but that was in spite of the eastern part of the state going more red. May as well be Idaho, but the thought of joining Idaho sickens me.
Spokane City itself is blue. The problem is the city is in district 5 which is made up of a lot of rural counties and is very red. Spokane has a population of 260,000 but the district has a population of 800,000.
Baumgartner doesn’t give a shit about Spokane. His voters are out in the counties.
Also, it seems like on any given day half the license plates in Spokane are from Idaho.
I’ll blame both.
Let’s blame both. The ones who actively voted for this and the ones who let it happen by not voting.
Let’s blame the parties who will only allow genocidal neoliberal ghouls to stand.
Get in, loser. We’re pushing the ghouls out.
Let’s hope so!
Because voters voting on a voting machine not owned or operated by the government but ran by a megacorp with Republican ties are to blame for the four years after an election
Citizens against other citizens while the ones who own everything continue to hold power and turn fellow citizens against one another
Non voters vote for the winner. Every single American who didn’t vote voted for Trump and voted for this. Their hands are just as red as anyone who voted for Trump.
Stop pretending that “both sides” is a viable argument anymore. Neutrality means you don’t fucking care. You can’t not care when your vote mattered and all of a sudden pretend you’re shocked when the outcome you openly were okay with turns out to become reality.
I’m nearly 40 and have been voting my whole life. IMHO non voters are worse than those who vote for “the wrong side” because at least that side owns their opinion in the voting booth. Non voters are fucking pussies and cowards too afraid to commit to things that affect everyone around them.
I am not allowed to vote :c
Perhaps run candidates who are not genocidal neoliberal ghouls?
So your choice was neoliberal ghouls… Or far right fascism who are killing your own citizens in the street, cost of living skyrocketing, cutting every food regulation in the country so the entire population gets sick, abandoning your military, starting endless wars with other nations, abandoning generations worth of allyship with international partners, and stealing wealth for the ultra elite, and allowing private companies to turn your entire country into a survelience state…
Man… What a difficult choice! Glad you chose the latter! How’s that working out for you down there, dipshits?
But hey. At least you probably got what you voted for (or didn’t vote for), a few trans people can’t play in sports.
Worth it in the end I suppose, right? At leat you didn’t vote for those terrible Liberals! Imagine how terrible life would be under that!
Well you didn’t mention the whole issue - choosing the neoliberal ghouls closes off any chance of change. The genocide goes on, things continue getting worse. The only option is to show the democrats that they will not take power again until they run candidates who are for real change. I’m sorry that the democrats would rather have fascism in the US than end the genocide. That’s on them though - not me.
So you’re an accelerationist. You’re not a serious person.
You are seriously making the case that it is utterly unreasonable to ask for a candidate who is against genocide? Lol. You are the un-serious one.
In America the options were token opposition to escalating violence or doubling down on the genocide. Unless you specifically chose the token opposition then yeah, you chose to double down on the genocide. It really doesn’t matter what you think or feel about it when that’s indisputably how the system functions. Non and third party votes are votes for republicans. Congratulations.
Refusing to vote for a genocide gives the democrats an option - run non-genocidal candidates. Your analysis treats every election as independent event - they are not. The previous election influences the next - being locked out of power for being genocidal sends a message.
choosing the neoliberal ghouls closes off any chance of change.
Well shit, I’m glad America got the change it wanted then. Enjoy Making America Great Again with all that amazing change you were so afraid of not happening.
I couldn’t imagine waking up in the morning and being okay with what your country has become. Yet here you are with your whole chest saying “Yeah, but if Trump didn’t win, we wouldn’t have change”.
The American education system isn’t avoiding the allegations.
I’m not ok with it. This is what the Democratic Party chose. They would rather this than effect real change. At least now we have a chance to end the genocide in 2028. If Harris had won we would not even have that.
The democratic party made you vote for Trump? Or not vote at all? They made you? They forced you at gun point and grabbed your hand and you wrote the X next to every [R]?
Are are you so disparaged by the DNC that you felt like no one represents you, so you chose not to vote. But by not voting, an election still happens with or without your concent. You participate in society, so your choice or lack there of still participates. So you not voting voted for the winner of the outcome, because the election still happens with or without you.
So now your country is in turmoil. Federal agents are murdering citizens in the street. Your food isn’t safe to eat. Your privacy is gone because of private enterprise. The rich get richer and you can’t afford to eat the food that’s not unsafe. Ai is taking over jobs.
But at least you showed those Democrats you won’t be pushed around, that they forced you to not vote!
At least now we have a chance to end the genocide in 2028. If Harris had won we would not even have that.
This is 100% my point. “If Harris won, we wouldn’t be able to end the genocide in the middle east”. You mean the one that the current President also advocated for? And after he was done with Palestine, he blew up a children’s school in Iran, killed civilian boats outside of Venuzualia, and starved active Navy Seaman while he closed a major shipping port to drive your gas and food prices through the roof?
Man. Imagine if Harris had won. What would THAT world be like? Me might have stopped a genocide 4 years after the fact, instead of exasperating that current one while participating in half a dozen more! Phew, we dodged a bullet!
The democratic party ran a pro-genocide candidate. Yes - they forced me not to vote for them. I exercised the only leverage I had - I showed them that while they support genocide I will not vote for them. Yes - the current president has the same view on the genocide that Harris does. They difference is that because Harris lost, we have a chance at a non-genocidal candidate in 2028. We would not have that if she had won. If Harris had won we would have locked in the genocide for decades. Do I think that it is a shame that the Democrats would rather a Trump win than an end to slaughtering children in the Middle East? Yes of course. Let’s hope they change their mind in 2028.
“Stay strapped or get clapped.”
For decades, the culture of the American Left has included “Ew, guns.” This is a direct consequence.
Go far enough left and you get your guns back, it’s more of neo-liberals who spurned firearms. With Trump 2.0 there’s been a serious uptick of people left of the reactionaries arming up and more importantly, training.
Assuming you intend to disagree with me, which was the tone I took your comment in:
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You seem to think I wrote “American Left” by accident.
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You seem to think I wrote “for decades” by accident.
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You seem to think that I wrote the entire comment, especially including “Stay strapped or get clapped,” for no reason.
looks to me like they were agreeing and adding on to your comment, from my vantage point yall agree with eachother
Was more disagreeing it’s not the entire left in the USA, but I feel no need to extrapolate or converse with them further. It wasn’t intended to have any sort of tone other than generally conversational.
fair ✌️
Was more disagreeing it’s not the entire left in the USA
Never said it was. Read more carefully.
I feel no need to extrapolate or converse with them further
Then kindly don’t engage in arguments if you don’t want an argument.
So engage with someone who is being openly hostile and misunderstanding your point. I cannot see how that could go wrong at all!
I wouldn’t say I was/am openly hostile, but I recognize that’s relative to what someone is used to so it may be that what I’ve written so far seems extremely hostile to you.
I’d put it more along the lines of… critical? Some people think any criticism is hostile, and that’s a completely valid feeling; the downside of course is any time someone disagrees with you and points out why, you put up walls and refuse to learn.
There’s obviously nothing I or you can do now to convince you that I wasn’t being hostile with that opening message, but just as obviously we think far less of each other after you’ve been shitty in return because you think it’s justified.
I don’t suppose you lose anything from blocking me, a person who occasionally criticizes those who mischaracterize what I say, nor do I from blocking you, a person who likes to start arguments and then plug their ears as well as believes that criticism is fundamentally hostile enough to justify escalation; as they say, we have irreconcilable differences.
In other words, you probably find me about as annoying as I find you.
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Skirmishes have begun. (I’m rooting for our trans homies) [edited to make it clear my support for trans homies]
:(
I don’t like it either. Know that I’m on the side of my trans homies.
Spokane’s failure to prioritize social programs and address vulnerable/volatile people with mental health problems and criminal history has also recently led to part of the city literally burning down. And then things like this happen and nimby subburbites still vote against doing anything about it, despite people getting hurt over and over again. I say this in addition to acknowledging the blatant transphobia the permeates the area.
