• Sarah Valentine@pawb.social
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    2 days ago

    Social media has the power to do so much good: connecting people across the globe, enabling the sharing of information across language barriers and in circumvention of government censorship, and more. But because the world is run by greedy power-hungry pigs, we can’t have social media without it being exploited to the furthest extent possible in the name of profit. The mental health of the public is not even a secondary concern - it is completely disregarded in favor of squeezing further growth out of a saturated market for a service that should be both simple and free.

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      3 hours ago

      When television started it had all the same potentials you mention in your first sentence, but by far its main use has been to convince people to buy crap they don’t need with money they don’t have. And that’s how it is now with the internet.

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      10 hours ago

      But where’s the motivation? How do you join the $10B club “doing so much good”? That would take soooo much longer than just being evil, evil is easy, evil is profitable, and evil can masquerade as good long enough to cash out to a level where you can hire lawyers good enough to never worry about being prosecuted for being evil.

      Where’s the structural societal incentive to “do so much good”, and why would we need it? We are social animals, most of us are hardwired for altruism, we’ll do good without expectation of compensation, so our “great society” has chosen to just use those base human instincts to “do good enough” and meanwhile reward the rare psychopaths with wealth and power - because: it’s a dog eat dog world out there, if our dogs aren’t eating theirs, theirs will eat ours.

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        9 hours ago

        Where’s the structural societal incentive to “do so much good”, and why would we need it?

        That’s a great question. There are some college courses that can help you answer that. The short answer is “because in terms of the flourishing of an entire species, cooperation trumps competition, but it’s a recent evolution and doesn’t come naturally to everyone”. If we are to flourish and advance instead of strangling ourselves in the crib, we need to stop tolerating the kinds of selfish behaviors that prove detrimental to every society that permits them.

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      12 hours ago

      Before all that - and you are right on your take - there is a more basic flaw that affects social media: people do not know how to act properly.

      The anonimity emboldens the small minds that use it to mistreat, slander and ridicule others and spread lies and rumours.

      Unless we can force people to act with civility - which implies people being fairly conscious of the consequences of their words and actions - social media will remain what it is: a cesspool where the worst of our species destils into a refined poison.

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        10 hours ago

        See: Manna by Marshall Brain. In his Australia project they simply install a centrally controlled “cutoff switch” - when people are out of line their conscious brain gets switched over to a virtual reality where they can live out their fantasies while their bodies report to detention until their brain decides it wants to join “the real world” again.

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          4 hours ago

          That doesn’t work. The average individual is too hedonistic to refrain from any pleasureable or self reinforcing loop. It’s been a cautionary tale in stories since ancient times.

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        11 hours ago

        people do not know how to act properly

        They do, in communities where rules exist and are enforced. Anonymity may lead some people to feel more emboldened to act out, but when handled properly I believe the vast majority of them will just settle down and either learn how to participate in good faith or find somewhere else to be. The bad behavior patterns we see in some places are, in my opinion, the result of insufficient social norms and enforcement thereof. This is also a situation capitalists will foster, because it drives engagement and inflates content.

        Unless we can force people to act with civility - which implies people being fairly conscious of the consequences of their words and actions

        So you already understand that this is a problem that only exists in places where bad actors are given license to continue acting out.

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          4 hours ago

          If I didn’t understood there is already a problem of bad actors, I wouldn’t have approached your reply. And deny it in any way would be bad faith from me.

          What I feel the need to underscore is that individuals make and influence groups and even the most progressively thought out environment is open to being corrupted if any individual present there lacks, in any way, the self awareness that their attitude is damaging.

          It’s not the group that needs to regulate the individual; the regulation needs to arise from the individual themselves, in the first place. And most individuals lack that hard individual sense of responsability.