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Um… What does blocking all internet access not prevent here? By isolated VLAN I mean isolated. I.e. fully blocked from internet access LAN local replies only. 0 WAN access.
if a device manufacturer is so hell bent on their devices phoning home that they’ll connect to an insecure wifi or a wifi network run by a ‘partner’ provider… they’re gonna be doing that whenever it can’t phone home via a configured network connection, too, and not just when there isn’t one set up.
It doesn’t prevent exactly what my comment said it doesn’t prevent ‘an adversarial entity physically residing within the space’. If I showed up with a pi bristling with antennas, loaded with an unknown, encrypted payload, and plopped it into your living room, would you just hook it into a vlan and be like “there, now I’m safe”?
Well barring an insecure neighbor wifi. An isolated vlan does the trick.
I wonder if they are willing enough to pay for Amazon sidewalk access https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/devices/everything-you-need-to-know-about-amazon-sidewalk
You really just replied to my comment saying that is insufficient, under an article saying that is insufficient, with ‘that is sufficient’?
Um… What does blocking all internet access not prevent here? By isolated VLAN I mean isolated. I.e. fully blocked from internet access LAN local replies only. 0 WAN access.
if a device manufacturer is so hell bent on their devices phoning home that they’ll connect to an insecure wifi or a wifi network run by a ‘partner’ provider… they’re gonna be doing that whenever it can’t phone home via a configured network connection, too, and not just when there isn’t one set up.
Gamers nexus talks about your exact point at this Timestamp. And he agrees with you.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFVTcM28KA&t=635 He says something like, “A common misconception is taking your TV off your network is enough to stop them from spying.”
i just thought up a nightmare scenario and now i want to beat the shit out of my printer more than i usually do
Yeah I mean you’re both right.
It doesn’t prevent exactly what my comment said it doesn’t prevent ‘an adversarial entity physically residing within the space’. If I showed up with a pi bristling with antennas, loaded with an unknown, encrypted payload, and plopped it into your living room, would you just hook it into a vlan and be like “there, now I’m safe”?
Totally different context, although less and less that’s the case. I.e. it used to be enough but yeah. I guess not any more.
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