• Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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    Acknowledging that doesn’t make him a cartoon villain

    That’s just moving goalposts. It’s not my black and white - you’re the one saying they’re good people (and that Trump is bad).

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      I’m not moving the goalposts. I said right from the beginning, Obama and Biden were good people who do bad things, and Trump is a bad person doing bad things. The only time Trump does anything good is an accident.

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        You’re moving goalposts by pretending that Biden has to be a cartoon villain to not be a good person.

        Again, I don’t find supporting a genocide to be something good people do.

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          Israel committing genocide is not the same thing as Biden supporting it, and conflating the two is completely dishonest.

          You can rightly condemn what Netanyahu’s government is doing while recognizing that the Biden administration was stuck trying to manage an official ally, push aid corridors, and broker hostage deals to stop a wider war.

          You want to see what actually supporting it looks like? Look at Trump telling Bibi to “finish the problem” and openly treating the annihilation and displacement of Palestinians like real estate development.

          Lumping Biden, who was actively pushing for restraint and humanitarian corridors, in with an authoritarian who cheers on the slaughter is the exact lazy, cartoonish framing I was calling out.

          Edit: To be clear, I am separating being a bad president from being a bad person. Biden was bad. Obama was mediocre, a big part of why being that he used weapons way too many times. But bad policies and failed presidencies don’t automatically make someone a cartoon villain.