I’m not sure what your definition of incrementalism is. A law passing or court ruling on a single issue is not but a reform of a law is?

My point was not defending some ill-defined “incrementalism” but to just say that all issues won’t get addressed at once. Look at the ACA, watered down and not enough but it did get millions of people insurance. It took so much political capital to get it in that form and it still became a beating stick for the Right for decades. It’s a ad campaign against billionaires that’s needed for anything expanding the government.

People don’t want to vote for anyone who can’t move a mountain in less than 4 years, or in this case someone who can’t move a hundred mountains.

Ah, might as well just give up then

I don’t think the current facists in charge are doing it incrementally. You don’t acknowledge any changes or improvements over the last 200 years due to incremental progressivism?

Slavery took a civil war but women’s rights, gay rights, minimum wage, social safety nets (granted not at the level they should be), etc. I’d argue there has been lots of progress. If anything, the last 10 years have shown that getting discouraged by imperfect progress and not voting (even for the lesser evil, who do sometimes surprise us) can lead to very quick backslides. We’ve literally lost rights and baked in harder obstacles to progress by not choosing the lesser evil when that is the only realistic choice. I’m discounting revolution there because again it doesn’t always end how it starts

I think it misses the point that while previous rhetoric may have been overblown what we are seeing now is at a different level.

This would make a better point if the current administration wasn’t dismantling the government, stripping rights, and abducting people in the streets.

People may not want to hear this but not everyone is ready to replace the whole system at once and incremental progress is probably the best way to make gains. Revolutions don’t always end with a government based on the ideals that started them.