At least 31 states and the District of Columbia restrict cell phones in schools

New York City teachers say the state’s recently implemented cell phone ban in schools has showed that numerous students no longer know how to tell time on an old-fashioned clock.

“That’s a major skill that they’re not used to at all,” Tiana Millen, an assistant principal at Cardozo High School in Queens, told Gothamist of what she’s noticed after the ban, which went into effect in September.

Students in the city’s school system are meant to learn basic time-telling skills in the first and second grade, according to officials, though it appears children have fallen out of practice doing so in an increasingly digital world.

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    9 hours ago

    The morons here are the teachers.

    People don’t know what they dont know and haven’t been taught. We have been relying on this idea that each next generation just has what the previous generation knows. It isn’t a practice thing it is a we haven’t prepared the new for what the world has to offer.

    We do this everywhere and blame the uneducated and point and laugh. Fuck that.
    I can’t wait for the students to learn and be proud when they do.

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      As someone who is in a relevant field (higher ed), the teachers are doing what they can.

      This past year I’ve had college students ask about the time during an exam because they can’t read the analog clock projected on the wall. If you can make it to 20 years old without realizing you’re missing a critical skill and learning it yourself, that’s also on you.

      We’re also seeing a lack of critical thinking skills and ability to retain information. People don’t remember things that were taught 1-2 semesters ago. Not that they need “a refresher”, but completely forget core concepts (such as forgetting what CPU caches are in an advanced architecture course). Then there’s tons of people who can recite every definition on an exam, but not take a step further to come to a conclusion on a problem. (Git revert reverts checked files, so if I run the command after committing a test file the file is gone and no test is executed).

      There is something wrong with students today. And I’m saying that as someone who just finished my undergrad during COVID. But the institutions are adapting by teaching things with less depth, which then dumbs down further education because they now have to re-cover everything from scratch…

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    Uh… No. The teachers are not stunned. They teach those kids every day. It’s you the reader who may or may not be surprised.

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    What a dumb take by the teachers. So what if they can’t read some old tech - just teach them? Are the students also incredibly dumb so they can’t learn it in 10 minutes? Seems like that would be bigger issue here.

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    10 hours ago

    I’m assuming dementia tests, if there is such a thing in the future, will probably have to swap out that question, anyway…

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    Want to be really stunned? Like, of your feet stunned?

    Ask them which country is the best country on earth.

    You’ll be floored…

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    When I grew up we looked at the height of the pile in the hourglass and we liked it! The rich kids all had sundial wristwatches though.

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      do we need a video essay to know that a clock display that is basically just progress bars is a good way to tell progress in that progress bar?

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      I have trouble with numbers (they didn’t have dyscalculia when I was a kid) and this was a chief complaint of mine, moving from elementary school to high school, where the clock were all digital. I had to “convert” it in my head to the clock face so my image-oriented brain could properly grasp it. Took me a few years to normalize it.

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    This thread hurts my soul… it’s not the actual subject but the quickness with which apparently everyone under 40 shrugs and says ‘fuck it’… if this is too much, I can only imagine how people treat subjects like informed voting.

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      I can only imagine how people treat subjects like informed voting.

      No need to imagine, look at the people elected to run the United States.

      That’s how people treat subjects like informed voting.

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      Ick. Voting? Do I have to go wake up the dude that takes the cover off of my dad’s Rivian?

      Also. Where’s my free house!?

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      21 hours ago

      Now you know how a clay tablet scribe felt when that new-fangled papyrus showed up in the high-schools.

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        You’re a funny bugger :)

        I was going to reply to your hourglass and sundial joke with a reflection that hourglasses are so much older than the relatively recent development of sundials, but you clearly knew that so I didn’t. And then the one-two. You could have done cuneiform vs hieroglyphs but tablets vs papyrus is the better gag. Keep it up :)

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    Heh, I’m early Gen X bordering on boomer and as a kid I found it a lot harder to read the time on an analog clock as opposed to the Casio digital wristwatch I had.

    Of course I could “decode” the clock, but it was not intuitive.

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      It literally is a harder format. One is literally just numbers and another is a chart. Anyone can read text but everyone needs to learn how to read a chart at least once.

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      I was frustrated that I couldn’t quickly and accurately read the time - Ie: it’s 1:23 rn, if I was looking at an analog clock, depending on the activity, I’d round either up or down. I found the minutes too small to read, and 90% of the time rounding was good enough.

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      As atropa says, make sure it specifies that it’s a noiseless clock. Many of them don’t say if they are on the package, so better to order one online that specifies it’s “noiseless” in the description.

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        and it is worse for dogs. the quartz clock has a ring to it, calibrated so it is just beyond human hearing, but not for dogs. they likely hear every device with a quartz clock

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        Good warning. Analog clocks that make noise drive me nuts. Search for “noiseless analog clock” and be sure it says that in the description before buying.

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    ‘Old clocks’? You mean… analog clocks? The ones in practically every household outside of America?

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      My mom has a thing for clocks. There are some places in her house where you can see 5 clocks, not counting watches or smartphones. No, I don’t need a clock in the bathroom, yet there it is. Granted, some of those are digital clocks, but some are also analog with Roman numerals.

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      And in! Lots of homes (edit: and other places!) have analog clocks here in the US. Historically, the US has had some really beautiful designs, too.