• ViceroTempus@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    Okay, no. Look I definitely believe the DNC elite are controlled opposition.

    However, AOC has been consistent about her messaging, and has been pushing for the abolishment of ICE. Has championed progressive causes consistently, and actually comes from a working class background. We need more people like her in politics in general.

    Calling her, in particular, controlled opposition is bullshit.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      13
      ·
      2 days ago

      It’s amazing people still fall for this bullshit after AOC voted to send weapons to Israel a year into the genocide. Most people really don’t have a memory span of more than 2 weeks.

            • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              17 hours ago

              There’s multiple genocides on Palestinians by Israel. That’s why there’s multiple Wikipedia pages. Maybe you can find another one.

              • BussyGyatt@feddit.org
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                6 hours ago

                no, im actually quite pleased with what i already submitted. a quote:

                The term [Nakba] is used to describe the events of the 1948 Palestine war in Mandatory Palestine as well as Israel’s ongoing persecution and displacement of Palestinians.

                maybe you want to nitpick the difference between ‘genocide’ and ‘persecution.’ i will just observe the fact that while the number of Palestinians genocided per year between 1948 and today varies, the number is always non-zero. not incidentally, a genocide may consist of other dehumanizations than the relatively simple process of mass murder. a historian might see fit to draw distinctions between periods of more and less genocidal behavior- or i suppose i should say more or less overtly genocidal behavior. i do not. i invite you to claim such an arbitrayr historical semanticism if you so please.

                or show me how i am wrong and i will thank you for the education: demonstrate an actually peaceful year between then and now. demonstrate a year, even one single year, where you can in good faith argue palestenians did not live in fear, under subjugation, their land invaded, their sovereignty usurped, their culture effaced, the people subject to arbitrary detention and plain unaccountable murder: In short, a year of no genocide between then and now.

                in other words, i challenge you to find a way to describe the unbroken campaign of ethnic cleansing and apartheid and displacement and settlement and indiscriminate murder and intentional famine etc etc etc as something other than constituting genocide in aggregate. it would be like trying to show that a person infected with herpes virus is periodically cured by looking at the periods between outbreaks. i predict you will run into a problem of finding many different forms of “unpeace” consistent with genocide. (actions taken with the intent (i will even allow intention and effect to lower the bar of this challenge) of destruction in whole or in part a people according to their categorization along lines of eg religious, national, ethnic groups)

                until then i remain intransigent. i assert genocide is unbroken from then to now and therefore insulting others as having a 2 week memory is an ironic hypocrisy. glass houses and stones.

                before i leave off, in fairness to you, i dont hate you. i fundamentally agree that it was shitty of aoc to vote to fund israel’s ongoing genocide and am skeptical of her intention and ability to affect meaningful positive change. i take exception to the unworthy insult. i write in disappointment, not anger.