Here you go Muricans… you will not be able to vote your way out of this one
Yeah but y’all said that last time too
and what did you do with the last chance? voted a felon pedophile into office AGAIN
Some indirectly by voting Jill Stein. But hey, at least the dems were taught a lesson, right? Right??
Exactly! Only a fool would think they would learn a lesson.
Last time Trump’s regime was somewhat constrained by the adults in the room. They’re all gone now.
Stalin was paranoid. Some prophecies are self-fulfilling.
You’re gonna try to steal the elections. Got it. Thanks for confirming in advance.
Every accusation is a confession from these fuckers. Everyone should know that by now and everyone should take this very seriously.
Edit: maybe stash a maga hat hidden somewhere, if you see ICE approaching to possibly arrest you and prevent you from voting, put the hat on.
They don’t even need to do a single thing other than stand there, and that would still be stealing the election by instilling fear into people and causing some to decide not to vote.
It won’t matter.
We can see by the elections that have taken place so far in 2025 and 2026 that they’ve angered enough Republican voters to kill their chances, whether those people flipped to Democrat or opted to stay home. Dems have flipped something like two dozen districts in the last year, several of which Donald won by double digits in 2024.
Doesn’t mean they won’t try. It is likely they can’t ascertain the scope of how badly they’ve pissed off their own voters though. This is likely to do with the fact that Donald and his inner circle can’t be bothered to take a sobering look at their own internal polling data.
If Republicans can’t rely on the states that voted red in 2024, and they evidently cannot, they can’t adequately strategize in the way Bannon is describing.
And if Republicans opt to escalate their aggression even more, it just pisses off more voters.
I think it far more likely Donald tries to do something on affordability that he can brand with his name before the election. He’ll gladly add another trillion to the national debt and send checks to voters if he thinks it’ll let him grift a few more billion while he’s still able to put two words together.
Everyone also said that there was no way Trump would get elected a second time after LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED since he announced he was going to run and here we are.
I don’t think that’s accurate.
There was a significant portion of the Democratic base that was dissatisfied with Biden/Harris and made it abundantly clear. Remember when Obama was dispatched to campaign events to lecture young black men? Or when Clinton was dispatched to campaign events to lecture angry Palestinian Americans?
Also, it was a sore point with many voters that Biden was nominated even though the entire Democratic Party seemingly knew he had dementia.
For my part, I think the idea that ‘everyone’ thought Donald couldn’t be re-elected was just because so many consume information only from their algorithm on these shitty corporate platforms like FB/TikTok/Twitter. That algorithm will figure out what you want to see and then construct a reality for you around it, so maybe you saw that Harris was unbeatable.
For my part, I predicted she’d lose. She ran a campaign that was basically opposite that of Mamdani, so it wasn’t hard to tell. You can’t tell people who are living in storage units and working three jobs just to afford groceries that you won’t change anything and expect to win. To become president you have to be the candidate of change. In 2024 (even though he was lying about everything) that candidate was Donald.
You don’t want to wear overt political clothing to the polls, there are some laws against that. I would recommend instead to wear conservative leaning clothing, I mean buy a fucking bass pro fishing hat and some overalls with some red wing boots and wear some flannels or Carhartt.
The rules don’t matter if you’re on the Right. If you show up and they ask you to take it off, you’re probably at a safe polling place. If they don’t ask you to remove it, vote unmolested.
maybe stash a maga hat hidden somewhere, if you see ICE approaching to possibly arrest you and prevent you from voting, put the hat on.
maybe stash a maga hat hidden somewhere, if you see ICE approaching to possibly arrest you and prevent you from voting, put the hat on.
That’s legitimately genius and hilarious at the same time.
Or perhaps common sense and depressing.
I think their logic is that it would prevent illegal aliens from voting and I guess that’s how they thought the earlier election was stolen. Some probably genuinely think that
It genuinely was the talking point for years on Fox “News”. And what we heard was some Dem saying “there’s no election fraud whatsoever!” Which is obviously bullshit on its face because of course there’d have to be some. I’ve genuinely seen it happen, red and blue alike, personally, and I’m legally blind! So the claim there was none was an “admission” that they were doing it, yup!
If you don’t ever come out of that tank, you buy that bullshit. An excuse for everything, the favorite being “they always lie, and they always repeat this particular lie, against everyone.” Y’know, and then we have e.g. the Epstein files coverup which still manages to prove that at least some of those “lies about everyone” absolutely were not lies. Congress has access to tons of classified info you and I don’t get so … they knew.
As for the rest of us? Maybe one didn’t see him for what he was in 2016. Propaganda is a terrible thing. Maybe somehow one voted for him in 2020. IDK how they ignored Jan 6th when he lost (I sure couldn’t!) I really don’t know how one might vote for him in 2024 either.
It’s now 2026. If someone still can’t see the problem with the concentration camps, the “100% above the law” enforcers who can gun down people just because threatening all our allies planning several invasions at once, tearing down the White House, stealing the Resolute Desk and Eisenhower’s sword and whatever else, slapping his name on everything and breaking laws to do it, erasing pre-Trump history (including pesky parts of the Constitution), literally running Nazi slogans on social media and government websites, and talking about people “poisoning the blood of America” … If you don’t see the problem yet, the only rational conclusion is that you don’t want to see it. We’re past the point of propaganda now.
trump has to keep bannon close because they are both on the epstein files, bannon was likely a liasons, trump does not want bannon to suddenly rat him out if he gets charged.
We’re gonna steal the election through force and manipulation because democrats keep stealing the election through getting more votes 😩
To paraphrase another comment I saw the other day, “the Democrats must be cheating, because we’re cheating and they still beat us!”
“We‘re gonna have ICE surround the polls…We’ll never again allow an election to be stolen.”
The word is ‘fair’. You’ll never again allow an election to be fair. Get it right, Steve.
There are 22,000 ICE agents, and there were 94,000 polling stations in the 2022 midterms. (Down from 200,000 in 2018 but that’s another whole mess) so at this rate they will have exactly ONE agent in every 4th polling station or so.
We can take 'em.
They only need to put them in minority areas of marginal states.
The rest of it is rigged already.
The rest of it is rigged already.
There are few more harmful things we can say to each other right now than the implication that everything is rigged and people’s votes don’t matter.
The states are huge, they are hard to rig, or we wouldn’t have seen the successes we have already.
While I agree about the “everything is rigged already” problem, the cold hard fact is that 80% of the election is considered to be decided before the first vote is ever cast, and I think Blackmist knows that, and discussing the electoral college suggests that … yeah, kinda. Which makes your otherwise helpful admonishment harmful too, because it doesn’t dissuade them of that view. In fact, a cynical reading of what you said is, “we know that, but you’re not supposed to say it out loud.”
What I’d recommend instead is pointing out that the people who assume 80% of the vote is irrelevant are failing to account for political sea change events on a large scale. They’re rare. Very rare, actually. But they happen and we’re kinda in one. So while 80% of the vote is already a given in most elections, it’s not a given in this one.
I upvoted Blackmist for his comment about ICE only needing to hit a minority of polling places to create fear, because that’s true. And you as well because you’re right that a message of hopelessness is harmful. I hope you both come away ready to defend the idea that this is an election that can actually erase and rewrite the status quo in America. The focus in the primary season needs to be getting strong candidates and flushing some weak-ass Dems, and then fighting like hell to get as many Dems elected as possible to avoid squandering people’s sheer outrage at the violence, lawlessness, and nothing short of Nazi saluting fascism in this country.
The electoral college is the rigging. The voting isn’t rigged. The outcome is.
They don’t care about Minoritytown, Alabama. That state goes red no matter what.
Similarly, they’re not going to intimidate all of Maryland. That is already going blue. It would be a waste of time to try.
Your votes in these areas are counted, but they don’t change the outcome. The popular vote is meaningless.
The big reason why the electoral college has “rigged things” (aside from Jefferson fucking things up, but that’s an argument for another time) is that the vote of so many has been so predictable. They only really worry about the places the outcome is likely to be volatile. Except in this election people are so pissed off that the outcome of the whole country is at least fuzzy, or can be if we work to make it that way. If they think they’re gonna goround Texas, they need to send people down there to intimidate. But they don’t. They might. In fact they’re likely to.
Everything’s in play if we make it all be in play. That’s on us, so let’s make it so sending goons to a few places won’t suppress the nation’s will. This isn’t even a presidential election, so the electoral college isn’t a factor. We can fix some of this shit right now.
Please help us do that! I’m treating this election like our lives depend on it, because they do.
The states are huge, they are hard to rig, or we wouldn’t have seen the successes we have already.
I don’t subscribe to doomerism and I resent those who do.
how many predominantly Latino and black areas?
We can take 'em.
They probably won’t send them to the safe republican seats.
I just found out that this cunt is the reason why Australia doesn’t have a sovereign wealth fund and robbed us of a decent PM.
What I would give to have him and his ilk stuff head into anus like a human centipede and slowly die while being live streamed.
Paper ballots or it didn’t happen. Fuck any machine that is on a network otherwise you get what you paid for.
No no
That way, Republicans won’t be able to cheat anymore. Rule #1: Republicans must be able to cheat or they won’t win a single election anymore, ever
Ya, guaranteed victory.
If you have a right to vote, and some ICE thugs try to stop you, kill them. They are committing a crime worthy of death. Democracy is worth killing for.
“The tree of liberty must be watered regularly with the blood of tyrants and patriots.” - Thomas Jefferson
I hope one day we can form a society that will prove Mr. Jefferson to be incorrect…
My correction: “watered with the blood of patriots, and fertilized by the flesh of tyrants.”
We should kill the bastards, and live out our best lives long after.
Fucking inhuman monster like the rest of the blood thirsty founding fathers. Garbage oligarchy from the start.
Im thinking some sort of open carry “protectors of the vote” group needs to be formed.
Unfortunately, most of the polling places in my state (and probably many others) are conveniently located at schools, libraries, or other government buildings which have long since been declared Gun Free Zones.
You’d get arrested just for showing up. Otherwise you’d all have to mill around outside the property line which in most cases would be quite some distance away, where you can be safely ignored and/or not be able to see anything that may be going down inside anyway. And the “gun free zones” around schools specifically here extend for quite some distance away from the school property itself, IIRC several hundred yards.
Great point. Maybe the legal observer and whistle approach, coupled with a de-arresting strategy would work? Im just throwing ideas out there. We need to be thinking and acting now to be ready come Nov.
The vanguard who doesn’t have to fear ICE can go vote in the morning then just start gathering next to wherever they’re hanging out. By midday the concept of anyone being stopped by the voting station will look infeasible.
Also, wherever MAGA is not firmly in control, protect vote by mail and early voting. And make sure people send their votes early enough to avoid postal manipulation.
I’m wondering what people think this “de-arresting strategy” is supposed to look like, exactly.
If you think you’re going to get anyone who’s just been kidnapped out of the back of the black SUV, you’re going to need to turn up with more guys than they’ve got at minimum, and very quickly.
That’s exactly how it works. You don’t let them get to the back of the SUV in the first place, but there are more of us than there are of them.
Not that I don’t support the spirit of it or anything, but we literally estapo’ hold down, disarm, and then summarily execute one of our brothers for having the audacity to try to help a woman they had thrown to the ground for no reason… If you think your attempts at ‘un-arresting’ anyone would be met with anything other than a hail of bullets courtesy of a group of Call of Duty cosplaying, white supremacist pussies who are simultaneously frothing at the mouth and jizzing their fucking pants at the thought of having an excuse to kill someone, then I’ve got some gorgeous coastal property in Montana I’d love to sell ya for super cheap
There may be more of us than there are of them, sure, but bullets are cheap
This is something that literally happened during the BLM protests and against the SWAT-like CBP BORTAC units that one of the shooter was a part of. He might have been there.
Alex was killed in a 8 on 2 with little potential for external threat and every nearby actor well recognized. Turn that into an 8 on 50 with enough people that the perpetrator is hard to identify and the threat charges. Handguns aren’t magic and if they escalate against random crowd members and don’t immediately control the scene (something they can’t be guaranteed happens) they can’t be sure they come out of that alive. If they do they may have just started the revolution and their fun cosplay power trip job turns into hoping they don’t catch a sniper shot during patrols.
Unarresting is risky as hell even without the threat of gunfire, it literally involves performing a felony, but if they’re attacking people at polling stations things are serious enough for people to not just continually back down.
I think a fair number of folks would be alright with local parents bringing their guns to their kid’s school, if it keeps children from being snatched by masked men in vans.
Armed checkpoints might also work against ICE traffickers getting to the voting stations. Masked, wrong plates, or not part of the security force? Citizen’s arrest.
When did they change ICE to stand for Illegal Colluders of Elections?
Well, the election part is new
Its literally always been that.
No, its always stood for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. This is a new development.
The agency has existed exclusively to enforce white supremacy from the day it was created. That is the entire point of the agency which was created to pretend to do the job of agencies that already existed.
Its OK that you are too stupid for this discussion.
I’m not the one resorting to personal insults.
Do you have a preferred term that I should use instead?
Or how about a substantive post that merits a reply instead of a dumb picture because you are too stupid to actually use words?
And the democrats will vote to fund ice in 10 days or whatever.
They’ll strategically negotiate the vote for after midterms. Really it’s your fault if we lose.
So the Italian film, “Saló or the 120 Days of Sodom”, turns out to be correct about the fascists, even if the director, Pier Paolo Pasolini, said it was a metaphor. He was believed to have been killed by fascists because of the director’s anti-fascism.
Democratic governors that are letting ICE do whatever the fuck they want in their states need listen up.
Set the precedent NOW that ICE can’t do whatever they want in your state without intervention from local police and national guard or else you are going to lose every election from here on out.
If I was a governor, and I heard that ICE was on its way, I’d station Troopers at every border crossing into my state, and pull over every ICE vehicle that crosses. Record their IDs, photograph their faces, search their vehicles, etc., and hang them up for a while, and let them know they will not be having a good time in the state.
And let every hotel, restaurant, and business know that anyone who serves ICE will not be getting any future business from the state.
More than that, give tickets and fines to companies doing business or sharing intelligence with them.
Identifying the Ice members and publicizing the information is a great idea, preferably after making it a law for all officers to not wear masks or hide their identities and to identify themselves as they work and not go around like a group of cartel members.
The administration will call it doxxing, but it’s reasonable for police to show their faces and be accountable for their behavior, the only reason they are disguising it is to prevent them from being held accountable for their behavior. So an abuse that was committed cannot even be pinned on a team of officers as leadership of ICE obscures their identities.
It won’t be long before we get more private groups of criminals, cartels, to pretend like they are ICE to murder and kidnap, and people won’t know if they can defend themselves without getting murdered and then tarred as a terrorist, not knowing if it’s federal agents (breaking the law, which you have a legal right to defend from I don’t care what anyone says, it matters what a jury says and they would mostly agree, a badge does not give you the right to execute people without cause.)
The nation voted to deport illegals, it didn’t vote to turn Ice into an extrajudicial paramilitary force accountable only to the president with a 200 billion dollar budget. They didn’t vote to cancel the Bill of Rights, like the 4th amendment. They also didn’t vote to deport the accused to foreign concentration camp prisons for life, or deport them to the shittiest countries they had never been to, just out of mean spiritedness. We’ve enough money to give ICE more than any military in the world outside of ours and china’s, but not enough to honorably deal with illegal immigrants?
The administration wants to make precedents on this issue, they have the most support on it, to use later in stealing elections and crushing dissent. To nurture federal dickheads they can cherry pick for special units, and otherwise radicalize their federal agents and base with their Fox News bullshit and lies to fool their part of the population into not realizing they are trying to kill the republic and take what little working people have.
ICE is often exempt from lodging taxes. There is often paperwork involved that the state comptroller can request.
Sounds good and all but wouldn’t our federal government take that as a threat
ICE uses lots of civilian vehicles. If you want a hard border that checks every vehicle, I don’t know if state troopers have the manpower to do that for an extended amount of time. This is also legally difficult territory. What should state troopers do if ICE doesn’t comply? Do you believe four troopers at a checkpoint will risk a shootout with a dozen armed ICE agents?
Will ICE shoot state troopers? Then try to be effective in that state after that?
I say we have the confrontation, and see what happens. My guess is that the ICE Apes back down.
By this standard of letting Ice summarily execute state residents under false pretense and not charging them in state law, Ice could execute a Governor, a prosecutor, a mayor, under false pretense, and only answer to the feds.
This is a must, the State needs to file charges for Ms. Good and Mr. Pretti. This is non negotiable, and if prosecutors are too cowardly to do it they need to be immediately recalled and replaced with someone that will cover the citizens of the Great State of Minnesota with the Shield of American Law.
Isn’t it moreso that they can’t get access to the evidence they need to successfully charge people?
There is video evidence, there is no more information needed to make a charging decision, and the officers are identified. Not charging because of wanting more evidence is a cop out. An excuse not to charge.
I haven’t seen that the officers were identified in Prettis murder. I’d be nervous to charge a federal officer who will have federal defense attorneys on video evidence alone when the fed has everything else I need. But I’m not a lawyer. I was just saying they clearly would like to press charges from what I’ve seen. I think they will, but are trying to make sure they don’t get screwed in court first. They have open lawsuits to ensure evidence doesn’t get destroyed by the fed. Why would they do that with no intent to charge?
NYTimes identified them I believe, both hispanic names at that.
And if the state didn’t id them, they aren’t trying, don’t let them fool you. They have all the facial recognition, a lot of information systems at their disposal. The fact that they haven’t means that the state prosecutors are declining to do their duty and protect their own citizens from he government, a trait they were all chosen for in fact.
All government officials back each other up by default, democrat, republican. If a cop or prosecutor cheats you, they will cover for them if possible. By default. Anyone not realizing that has lived a sheltered life and may be in for some rude surprises this next decade.
This new dynamic where the local law enforcement aren’t on the same side as the federal law enforcement cheating their citizens must have these officials thrown for a loop. They are in the old boy club, they joined to beat up undesirables, not to defend people from those that can fight back. Time to resign in disgrace.
I suppose we’ll see, I just have a feeling the dust is still settling and cards are being held. But I may be naive, I have been before
I was wrong, it was propublica that identified them. The reform prosecutors are the only ones talking about charging Ice for crimes if they commit egregious ones in their districts so far. Philadelphia’s Krasner, I think Chicago.
Welp, I’ll make sure to get myself in front of a camera and proudly state that as a registered Republican, I gladly choose to vote straight Democratic ticket because of the unAmerican, unPatriotic, rather “commie pinko” intimidation tactics of the GOP.
Let’s go REAL old school on the political shit-flinging and see how under that gross pigs skin we can get.
Oh wow you’re going to show them when they dump your ballots somewhere and your principled vote is irrelevant!
With a R by my name?
Ain’t gonna happen easily.
Real old school is voting with your brain instead of down party lines?
NGL, that’s kinda why I registered Republican. At our local city level, there were some really decent Republican candidates, so to make sure they got on the ballots in the primaries, I chose that… but at the state and federal, I generally just vote Democratic. Best to try and maintain a balance of candidates so you don’t pitch too far one way or the other. It also helps mitigate the damage done by the sheer number of Libertarians that fuck so many policy results up. Our state’s infested with those morons.
LOL at thinking your vote will get counted.
Oh, It’ll get counted. If not, I just don’t file taxes at the end of the year!
Are they going to follow us into the booth? Don’t be intimidated
They might detain brown citizens for 24 hours on election day.
They are gonna make sure the votes are counted correctly though.
They don’t have the capacity. That’s like saying you’re going to make pancakes with a bunch of hammers.
Do they have enough paramilitary to surround the polls?
Just the democrat voting ones with high immigrant populations in swing states I expect.
That’s cool, cause they seem to be losing elections in red states. The swing appears to be such that short of screening for voter intentions at the door would still have them lose. Not that I have much faith they won’t adjust the results after the fact.
Yeah, they don’t need to worry about red states because god emperor Trump will just order the Republicans in power in those states to cook the books and give them the win no matter what.
That’s evidently untrue, given that two dozen districts Donald won in 2024 have flipped this year. The simple fact here is that they cannot adequately deduce where they have enough strength to win at this point. Donald has become that unpopular.
Honestly bro, Lemmy is just full of doomers. They can try whatever they want, but the numbers just don’t seem to be there
They seem awfully quick to ignore Donald’s many failures in the last year. Hell, he was even forced to release Kilmar Abrego Garcia.
Or that they have to downscale in Minnesota, or that scotus just okayed California’s maps, or that the assumption of Latin support they gerrymandered around wont hold, or that zoomers have flipped right back against them, ect ect
I really hope you’re right.
They do not, which is why Miller, Bannon, Rubio et all are begging Donald to invoke the Insurrection Act. With the US military they could do some real damage to the next election.
The problem, though, is that they’re so vastly unpopular that it may not even matter. They stopped the extreme gerrymandering attempts because the evidence mounted fairly quickly that they’d destroyed the coalition they built to win the 2024 elections, so all the gerrymandering was really accomplishing was making them even more unpopular. That has been evident by the two-dozen districts that have flipped in the elections since, all of which were won by Donald in 2024 and most won by Donald by double digits.
I expect that Donald will escalate wildly in the coming months, because even all of the abundant evidence that his politics and aggression so far are losing him the 2026 elections hasn’t been enough to make him stop. He lives by the Roy Cohn doctrine, which means never giving up and never admitting defeat. Ever.
