• fizzle@quokk.au
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    21 days ago

    This obviously doesn’t take into account accessibility.

    Thailand is 10th, but i assure you the general population doesn’t have access to better quality care than Australians in 20th place, simply because they can’t afford it.

    • toofpic@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      It’s also about how it’s perceived.
      I’m from Russia, and I live in Denmark. Yes, if something life-threatening will happen to me in Denmark, I’ll probably get the best treatment, get operated using high-tech equipment, etc. But for something more routine, in Russia I can just visit a doctor (today. I will complain about the long line, but today), and in Denmark I will have to book an appointment (like in a week or two) to GP, and for a specialist I will go to GP, and then to a specialist if GP approves (there is a chance a GP will say “you’re fine”, and you can’t do anything.
      A GP in Denmark can tell you to “drink some tea and rest more” if you have chronic pain, or something like that, and it will be hard to overturn that decision.
      So, in both countries I have tax-funded doctors, but in Denmark I will be treated like in 3 weeks (either perfectly, or not treated at all), In Russia I will be treated quickly (from “meh” to “good”).
      Special cases like if you have a rare generic dicease and the medicine costs $100k a shot. Denmark - you will get as many shots as needed. Russia - you gotta findraise or die.
      Teeth: In Denmark stomatologybis not covered, so you pay exorbitant money. In Russia, you can choose to go to a “free” doctor, then it depends. You will probably pay extra for better anesthesia, better filling materials, etc, but technically if you are dirt-poor, you can get your teeth done. So when I moved to Denmark permanently, I did “everything”.
      Paid medicine: In Denmark additional insurance from work and such will get you quicker appointments in the same places as the “free tier”. In Russia, there are commercial clinics and agreements with hospitals, so you can get the best treatment available just because you work in a good company with the perk.
      Doctor’s skills: Historically high in Russia, “better-than-average”+knowing modern approaches/tech in Denmark.
      Resume: is Danish medicine working generally better? Yes. Should Russia be out of top 20-30-… places? No.
      I have a list of stuff to do when I’m visiting Russia when the war is over: teeth, vasectomy, fixing axe scar on a finger, tomography and all checks, etc, and I’m not doing it here.

    • Kurroth@aussie.zone
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      20 days ago

      Yer, we have our issues, but there is no way we are that low on a list regarding ‘best’ healthcare.

      • toofpic@lemmy.world
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        20 days ago

        Top ten is still nice, especially considering it’s a list accounting for different disciplines. So even if Korea is the best for plastic surgery, they can be lower in the rating because something else is not perfect.
        Plus, any rating can be biased, not include something, or have a methodology favoring something. See my comparison of Denmark in Russia in another comment (Russia is not even there, I’m not sure if it’s not rated or if it’s rated that low)