• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    The US is built around a party system (and typically a 2 party system). Like it or not, that’s what it is. No amount of crying on the internet is going to change that.

    So either burn shit in the streets, or work within the system. Bitching about it while not voting as a “protest” just puts the absolute worst shit hawks in power.

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      7 days ago

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

      • Julius Nyerere

      burn shit in the streets is your best option.
      But knowing how potty trained to “work within the system” you all are and there is zero chance for you pacified slaves.
      Resign in your fate and get what you deserve

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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      7 days ago

      Obviously, the only way to end FPTP while working within the system is to vote for people who are against FPTP.

      If they don’t oppose FPTP, then they are fine with Republicans and are playing you for a fool. Yes they know, everyone has known since the 2000 election.

      • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        7 days ago

        FPTP is not the problem, that works well for presidentials, which is what everyone cares. The problem is with Winner Takes All and electoral college, which means your vote is worth very little in all but swing states.

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          7 days ago

          FPTP doesn’t work well at all for presidential elections. FPTP is infamously why George W. Bush became president. It’s why we have a “two” party duopoly who want to keep it that way.

          No objection to proportional representation, but that’s a little further out than “can we vote for people who are actually good”. It’s a much tougher sell.

          Same with the electoral college - sure it sucks, but that’s not why otherwise good people vote for genocide.

          • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            7 days ago

            FPTP doesn’t work well at all for presidential elections. FPTP is infamously why George W. Bush became president.

            Al Gore won the popular vote in the 2000 presidentials, which in a true FPTP, would have netted him the POTUS.

            Trump also lost the popular vote, but Clinton got really screwed by the Electoral College. Would life (in the US) have been better if Al Gore and Hillary Clinton had been made presidents instead of Bush and Trump (notably two of the worst presidents)?

            Maybe. But the fact is that under a purely FPTP presidentials, Bush would not have won.

            • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
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              7 days ago

              No offense, but were you an adult by 2000? The popular vote wasn’t done counting until after the Supreme Court ruled in Bush’s favor. Had there been no spoiler effect, it wouldn’t have been close, and the Supreme Court wouldn’t have ruled on it.