• webadict@lemmy.world
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    • Disband USAID. That, alone, killed hundreds of thousands. And nobody really likes that. Like, unprecedented levels of political violence around the world because of this.
    • Use ICE as their private gestapo. Send them to airports and towns and shit. ICE’s actions have killed over 5 times the number in a year as under Biden, period. Was ICE bad before? Hell yeah. But it is absolutely worse now. Pretend that’s supported by Democrats by using budget votes, that STILL WOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED UNDER KAMALA.
    • Pardon the January 6th protestors. Considering that several of them immediately went on to commit crimes against others, that’s just an easy one. Especially those child rape crimes! Idk, there’s a lot of support from Republicans on child rape that I just don’t see from Democrats.
    • Team up with Israel to go to war with Iran and whoever else is Israel wants. You can pretend that there’s Democrats that support this stuff, but, literally, there is no precedent for doing that. None. And every president gets asked to do it because Israel is an ally. Should we be allies with Israel? Fuck no.
    • Be a child sex predator and be Epstein’s best friend. Pretty hard to top that one, he’s literally a child rapist. Oh man, guess you can put Clinton as your ammo against that one, since they’re Democrats. Oh wait, I’m sorry, who’s responsible for those sweetheart deals? Republicans? Damn. Not again.
    • Executive order two genders to fuck over trans people. Yeah, I don’t think Democrats would do this. Are they great allies? No. But are they better than Republicans? Fucking absolutely. This has lasting consequences. People are dying because of this. And Democrats just would not do this.
    • Oh shit, I can keep going? Trump is using the presidency to enrich himself. He has made four billion dollars off the office, through embezzlement from crypto and bribes and a whole bunch of other shit. The Democrats or any President really has NEVER become a billionaire while OR AFTER being President. And he defrauded many people to do this too. Does it harm his base more than most? Yeah.
    • Tariffs! Why would anyone use tariffs, let alone huge generic tariffs? Raised prices on all goods, illegally, and now that the Supreme Court has said they’re illegal, everyone gets to keep their huge high-costing shit. Lots more starving children!

    This is no-brain shit. It’s so easy to see the differences.

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      Was ICE bad before? Hell yeah. But it is absolutely worse now.

      Will a future Democrat disband ICE or simply turn a blind eye to what is quickly becoming a rogue paramilitary? We’re watching politicians like Tim Walz and Tina Kotek roll over in the face of de facto martial law in their states. I don’t see any evidence to suggest a future Democratic President will rein in ICE now, given that they were unwilling to do it under Biden or Obama.

      there’s a lot of support from Republicans on child rape that I just don’t see from Democrats.

      If you haven’t seen it, you aren’t looking. Half of Epstein’s Black Book was Democrats. Hell, Trump was a Democrat up until 2009. Hillary and Obama were both happy to turn a blind eye to human trafficking run out of Mar-a-Lago, when they needed Donald to donate a big cup of money.

      Team up with Israel to go to war with Iran

      Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran

      How Biden pushed Israel to calibrate its strikes on Iran

      Be a child sex predator and be Epstein’s best friend.

      Bill Clinton. Michael Bloomberg. Larry Summers. The list goes on. Epstein was another liberal mega-donor and was more than happy to gather kompromat on liberals and conservatives alike.

      And, again, it cannot bare repeating enough. Donald Trump was a registered Democrat until 2009.

      In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer: “In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat”, explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn’t be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats…But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we’ve had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of political positions and that “I identify with some things as a Democrat.”

      He was a pass-thru between Epstein and the Democratic Party - particularly Hillary Clinton, during her tenure as NY Senator. There is ample reason to believe he ran in 2016 as a cat’s paw of the Hillary campaign, intending to sabotage the GOP from within.

      Executive order two genders to fuck over trans people.

      Gavin Newsom

      Eric Adams

      Oh shit, I can keep going?

      I don’t doubt it. But it looks like it’s all bullshit.

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        So, do you want to admit that Democrats would kill less people, or not? I get you’re trying to point out these issues as equivalencies, but, like that still would mean that you agree that Democrats would have killed less people because you didn’t point out USAID issues, the one that has killed hundreds of thousands. So, let’s pretend that these are the same (they’re not, Democrats pushed for Epstein files, Newsom and Adams never executive ordered anything like Trump, Democrats are the ones pushing any amount of changes on ICE, even we both agree they’re not enough), that STILL MEANS TRUMP IS KILLING MORE PEOPLE.

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          Democrats would kill less people

          Would they? Who is counting?

          Did Obama kill fewer people than Bush? Before Libya, I would have agreed he was the lesser evil. Afterwards, much harder to say.

          Did Biden save any lives when he refused to prosecute anyone in the Trump administration after taking office?

          Either way, you’re not winning me over when you promise N-1 dead people.

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            We’re talking about Trump right now, and not Bush, even though our forever wars always start under Republicans.

            Trump disbanded USAID. That has killed hundreds of thousands around the globe. That, alone, should be the single most obvious difference that you talk about. Like, pretend that there wasn’t a push for a ceasefire in Gaza, something that Kamala talked about constantly, or that there was some reason that Kamala would go to war with Iran. I will strongman this argument to all heck…

            No Democrat would EVER DISBAND USAID. None of them. There’s no reason to. And that killed hundreds of thousands on its own. Right?

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                Moving the goal posts. Again. They would not have killed hundreds of thousands and you know it and refuse to admit it because you are unable to accept you are wrong.

                Do you care about political violence or not? Do you care about people or not? Because it looks like you don’t. It looks like you are okay with others dying if it somehow punishes the people you think it should punish, and it doesn’t even do that right. I am sad for you, a performative leftist, because you are so easy to see through.

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                  When presented with evidence, you shut down. You’ve been conditioned to give this response. If you’re genuinely interested in the truth, I would suggest not to call providing sources “moving the goal post”. Because at the end of the day, this response is exactly how the oligarchs keep you in line.

                  Every person has motives. Every rational person acts in their own self preservation. Capitalistic Oligarchs, red or blue, will maximize their control for capital. They do it because they must. The electorate votes for things they have been told are good, most will never understand the nuances of what I just said. Perhaps you are different?

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      I asked for policies.

      please submit a list that confirms to your original comment, without the commentary.

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        I asked for policies.

        please submit a list that confirms to your original comment, without the commentary.

        Moving the goalposts and lying?

        Please show where I said policies. Please show where I said it. I will give you infinite time, here’s my comment. Please show where it is.

        Because I can name like 5 things off the top of my head that Trump did that Kamala or any other Democrat would not have done that has absolutely killed more people.

        I don’t see that. Do you? Where is it? Wanna move the goal posts again?

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            Was that not civilly? I was just asking questions and you refused to answer them. It seems like you’re the one not arguing in good faith. Please show where I wasn’t arguing in good faith. Because I just showed where you weren’t.