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    I wish Iran would declare that they are going to continue to keep the straight closed until Trump himself personally travels to Iran and personally apologizes for his illegal war.

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    I don’t think we’ve ever seen the US lose a war so quickly and completely.

    And I call it losing because they’ve failed at every reasonable objective.

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        That’s why I wrote every reasonable objective.

        They can stick around for 20 years blowing stuff up, but you can’t win unless you have some objective.

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      Honestly, of all the bad possible outcomes of this war. Losing this way is the least bad.

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          Exactly, if this really all ended now then we all practically got off easy. (Including the Iranian people compared to how bad it could get.)

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      Americans honestly don’t even consider this our war.

      This is Trump’s war. America didn’t lose this war. Trump lost Trump’s war.

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    I mean, they’re not totally wrong, Trump seems to be negotiating with the Iranians in his daydreams.

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    So what objective is the US exactly fighting for if this does not stop now? What the US would call winning will be the Iraq/Syria senario which is Netenyahu’s wet dream.

    Iran becomes a failed reigon controlled by 500,000 members of different malitias without any government killing each other and destroying ships and production plants in nearby countries with drones and attacks for 5-10 years to come. This means 10 yrs of 200,000+ US troops deployment in there to escort shippings and fight back …etc…etc. costing $trillions and thousands of lives. Also means collapse of world economy for at least 5 years because Iran will not go down before taking the economies of gulf US-puppets down with it. Shortly after Israel will be free to occupy Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and parts of Eygpt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia because those countries will not have any economy left or strong government to defend themselves.

    In what world would there be any other senario? They bomb Iran to smithereens and that Palahvi clown who lived his entire life in california out of Iran’s stolen wealth becomes king of Iran, but then all previous military members with drones and guns and artiliary rpgs whose currency became 0 already and lost everything and had all their families killed just stop fighting and hang up their weapons in their living rooms?!?

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      To be clear, the US isn’t fighting for anything.

      This is Trump’s war and his war alone.

      Virtually no Americans actually wanted this war.

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        plenty of oligarchs in the US are making bank on this, MIC has had the whole government by the balls pretty much since WW2

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        It was his second last attempt to dodge and weave from the Trump-Epstein files. His last attempt will be global thermonuclear war. Somebody stop this guy for crying out loud.