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    7 days ago

    Market cap on BTC is 21M coins and the largest individual owner has 1.1M coins while the next two largest owners is 70k coins and 30k coins respectively. I think a small country and the FBI are also major holders.

    The capability for those owners to devalue it via selloff is infinitely less than the capability of a country to devalue its currency via selloff, inflation from minting and loan interest rates, poor trade practices, etc.

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      A country devaluing their currency has negative effects for them. So they don’t have incentive to do so. Even with hyperinflation in countries like Argentina, people start to use a different currency, like the dollar.

      For Bitcoin I’m just copying and pasting: Top 10 addresses: The 10 richest Bitcoin wallets (excluding Satoshi Nakamoto’s dormant holdings) collectively hold roughly 1.1 million BTC, about 5.5% of the total supply. Top 100 addresses: The 100 largest wallets control approximately 2.9 million BTC, around 14–15% of the circulating supply. “Whale” wallets (>1,000 BTC): There are 2,000–2,100 addresses that each hold at least 1,000 BTC (worth $100+ million apiece). Collectively, these large holders own over 36% of all Bitcoin.

      This also assumes that wallets are individual people. Some wallets may be only part of some holdings and the same entity might have multiple addresses.

      In the case of Bitcoin if they decide it’s not viable and want to sell, there is no negative effect for them once their holdings are gone, should their sale cause a crash. Theat level of control of the market is unheard of. Even looking at the plays on GBP in the past, it was based on much smaller amounts.

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          Haha, true that. However, I’m pretty sure the whales will act in their interest. Financially or otherwise.

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              The difference is the nations effects have diminishing returns. So as they make moves that crash the currency. There is pressure on them to stop or change. Either financial if it’s for corruption or political if it’s for other reasons.

              For Bitcoin whales, there is no such pressure or negative effect. Once they sell their holdings, they are done.

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                I don’t know how to tell you this but nations have on many occasions made their currency worthless.

                The pressure to stop despots and morons from destroying their value is meaningless when BTC DOESN’T EVEN HAVE THE SAME MECHANISMS TO DESTROY VALUE.

                All the whales can do is sell, and its not enough to harm the value long term because when they sell then somebody else will own it.

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                  Yes, I know but usually not on purpose and in the process of enriching themselves.

                  With Bitcoin, it is in their interest to sell of they think it’s starting to devalue and that may be permanent. So the market pressure is in the opposite direction of where it would be for a currency where the central bank has no interest in profit but only stability. That can be corrupted, of course. But with currency, that’s in a worst case scenario. With Bitcoin, that’s the norm.

                  When the shakes sell, the value drops. Someone else only owns it if the sale is successful. At a certain point it becomes a falling knife. So their only interest is to try and sell before anyone notices. Eg quickly, which will cause a bigger drop.

                  That’s what I mean. The incentives in Bitcoin for individuals are pervers for Bitcoin as a whole.

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                    Every 3 or 4 years for over 20 years there are droves of people like you saying the value dropping is permanent, that it will never go back up, and yet it has gone from pennies a coin to over $123,000 USD per coin. As BTC adoption rate increases so does price and stability, and BTC adoption rate has always increased and in my opinion will continue to do so for many decades.