Donald Trump has issued his latest threat to Iran and said that if officials fail to make a deal with the United States “the whole country is going to get blown up.”

The president also made threats Sunday morning to target civil infrastructure after it was reported that Iranian forces were refusing to allow ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz this weekend.

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    USA by criminals for criminals. Absolutely disgusting country, just as bad as Putin’s Russia.
    To the American population: The fact that you elected this corrupt criminal pedophile malignant narcissist of a moron twice will never be forgotten - never!

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      will never be forgotten

      Sadly, you’re wrong. It will be forgotten. That’s why history keeps repeating itself.

      If people didn’t forget, they wouldn’t have voted for fascists. After the war, people swore they would never forget the horrors of fascism either. And yet… Trump is soiling the White House today.

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        Has Hitler been forgotten?
        This time it’s even worse, because Americans have been taught about Hitler and Nazism and the horrors that follow with authoritarian governments.
        Americans have no excuse, they should have learned enough from history to not repeat the mistakes of Nazism.

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        Edit: I read the above as sarcasm, I don’t think Germany is still shunned, but it is for sure still remembered what they did in WW2.

        Original post:
        Has it been forgotten, if you mention Hitler, does anyone still remember? No it will not be forgotten, just as the USA helping Europe hasn’t been forgotten. But the reason Germany was slowly forgiven was first that they were split in 2 making the power of Germany smaller, it was a different time, with no prior historical lesson to learn from regarding Nazism. and that the political environment in both parts of Germany was changed completely, with Western Germany taking responsibility more than any country had done before them.

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      I’d argue it’s worse, the Russians didn’t exactly elect theirs

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            Back in 2000 he won fair. He did so by playing a strong conservative and nationalist campaign and ridiculing his opponents with the help of a lot media coverage from friendly channels.

            Even now I’d say he doesn’t even have to cheat in the elections themselves because he changed the country itself to the point where he can have any real threats thrown in jail or killed and has a firm hold over what most of the population knows and gets suggested just keeps him very popular.

            In a lot of ways it’s Trump, after he’s been allowed to stay in power for 26 years

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              He may very well have won fair 26 years ago, but the way you explained the second half I think would qualify any elections had as “sham” lol

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      Idk, I think I’m going to scream at voters for this. Primarily leftist voters, though. I still think I can win over the conservative voters and Congress critters by being nice to them.

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        I’m still screaming at voters, they made an incredibly stupid decision and are now too immature to admit it.

        You help Trump come to power, you’re a fucking scumbag, not a hero.

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          You help Trump come to power

          More than likely no, you didn’t. The election was on rails when Biden decided to drag his moldy ass into a race he couldn’t win, rather than stepping aside after a single term and opening up the primary. Trump came to power because Merrick Garland refused to prosecute him for his many crimes and Silicon Valley swept in to money bomb him.

          Individual voters had no say in any of that. The EC guaranteed they had only the most marginal say in which way their state went. And even the on-the-ground campaigns were dwarfed by the degree of corporate, industrial, and overseas manipulation of public opinion.

          To say any given voter is “responsible” for Trump is like blaming any given butterfly for the next hurricane.

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    I blame the criminally passive GOP congresscritters and senators for letting Trump and his fascist henchmen destroy the country. All it would take is for a few of them to agree to 25th Trump’s ass and impeach Vance and Kegbreath for this madnest to end right this minute.

    History will not be kind to them, and I hope the courts will hold them accountable for what they did one day too.

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      Don’t let them or the media convince you that their actions are passive. They have had many opportunities to put the brakes on this administration, and every time they deliberately side with Trump. Every Republican congressperson is complicit with his agenda.

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      You kidding me. Once this fucker is gone, every single one of them will decide that the orange lying asshole was the only problem, and will reliably pull their team’s lever again and again…

      Edit - goddamned autocorrect.

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        I guarantee you if God existed, he would not ro-ro with those clowns.

        If I was a Christian, I would feel offended by the GOP: they talk a lot about Jesus but they don’t actually follow the teachings of Jesus very much. And that’s hardly new.

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      It will only make JD Vance president, and he is no better than Trump, and the American population will just elect another psychopath a few years down the road. We might as well get it over with and have USA destroy itself now.

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        It will only make JD Vance president

        Re-read what I wrote.

        the American population will just elect another psychopath a few years down the road

        Indeed, you’re correct. Trump and MAGA aren’t the problem, they’re a symptom. The disease is a population with the IQ of a lemming and a penchant for fascism.

        But you will note that I said “stop THIS madness”. The next madness is next. But at least this one could be halted quickly.

        We might as well get it over with and have USA destroy itself now.

        I’m hip about that. The problem is, America is dragging the rest of the world down with it.

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          The disease is a population with the IQ of a lemming and a penchant for fascism.

          Disappointing but succinct

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          Re-read what I wrote.

          Impeaching him will do nothing, it hasn’t really done anything to prevent a president in power since Nixon was threatened with it back in the 60’s.

          But you will note that I said “stop THIS madness

          “This” is not specific, I read it like the madness of USA, not the administration or congress, but the people electing insane psychopathic politicians.

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        *the capitalist billionaire class will thrust two psychopaths one the American people and tell them they’re the only options.

        Americans haven’t had a say in decades, if ever.

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          You had me with the first line, but lost me with the second.
          USA is still a democracy although imperfect, and we just saw in Hungary how a near dictator of 16 years was overturned despite conditions for the elections were just as bad as they are in USA, and despite Orban had control of the national media and the courts.

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    So that relatively small group of soldiers sitting in boats far from shore without adequate food or supplies are going to crush the much larger and entrenched entire Iranian military now huh. Sounds real scary.

    One silver lining to all this is that evidently Trump has learned that its harder to attack a mid sized country halfway around the world --without allies-- in challenging terrain – than it is to attack some unarmed civilians trying to get to work in portland or minneapolis.

    Progress of a sort.

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      The soldiers won’t do a thing, US Navy-Air Force will toss bombers and missiles; they’ll do small special ops too, of course.

      I don’t think they’ll ever use the Army-Marines, too much risk.

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        Sounds about right. No armor called up either. They could have activated one for show at least.

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    So Americans, are you really going to let this clearly unhinged man drive the world into nuclear Armageddon? You will cling on to the jobs you say you hate until the last second of doom lest you find balls and do anything?

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      As much as I hate to admit it, because I am one, modern Americans are wimps.

      I mean…we’re letting a criminal pedophile drive our futures into the dirt. As in, we will see a decline in the quality of our lives, for the remainder of our lives.

      It’s not really a matter of opinion. We’re weaklings.

      Whether “America The Brave” was true at some point or just propaganda, the bottom line is we’re completely and totally pathetic right now. An absolutely shameful time to be an American citizen.

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          I don’t think the U.S is so far gone that we can’t turn this whole saga into a history lesson in 2028.

          I would have thought the same but you guys (speaking generally of course) reelected the Child Rapist and not 2 weeks ago, still voted a republican back to Congress to replace MTG…

          So yes, there is a theoretical chance to get rid of this problem via voting… but something tells me Americans are unable to learn lessons anymore

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          Oh please. Whoever gets the Dem nomination is going to continue all the evil warmongering and disastrous economic corruption Trump is guilty of, they’ll just be less obnoxious about it.

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        We’re not wimps, weaklings, or cowards. We’re simply not allowed to walk up to Trump’s house, knock on his door, tell him everything he’s doing is atrocious, and tell him to stop it, and we’re not allowed to do all the other illegal things we wish we could do to him either. We’d end up in prison or dead. If anyone decides to do any of that, he’d be a heroic Luigi, but Luigi is rotting away in prison now. And/or we need a large scale united front uprising. We must study ants and learn from them how to unite a million people to accomplish one big task together.

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      You mean the job that pays for my rent and food so I’d don’t freeze/starve to death? Yeah, I don’t really have a choice. I hate the shit Trump is doing but not enough to destroy my entire life over it. Even if whatever I do in protest is successful. If I lose this job I’m not just going to be able to pick back up where I left off at a new place. It’s going to be a pay cut and I’m not making enough as it is.

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        Well… there are probably a million options to enact before self immolation but you are choosing to just play the card victim and pretend there is nothing you can do until there will be truly nothing you can do.

        Let’s not forget you guys have been at the “shrug and ignore” tactic for at least 15 - 20 years now?

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          Please list any of these millions of options that I personally can do to stop Trump from fucking with Iran.

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            you could do small stuff that by itself won’t stop the child rapist but would create pressure like dropping the spy services like Meta, xitter, etc… you could donate to groups actually organizing, you could email your friends and fam to encourage them as well…

            Of course, you are likely to do none of that because it’s a minor inconvenience to you and it won’t solve the problem quickly, completely and permanently

            You could do harder stuff like organize strikes in your city but you won’t because there is actual work and risk in this and you’ll implode if you lose your job

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              like dropping the spy services like Meta, xitter, etc…

              Never used them in the first place.

              you could donate to groups actually organizing, you could email your friends and fam to encourage them as well…

              Already did

              You could do harder stuff like organize strikes in your city but you won’t because there is actual work and risk in this and you’ll implode if you lose your job

              No one would follow me and yeah, I already covered the fact that I’m not going to torpedo my entire future (however shitty it may be) to have a minimal impact on what Trump is doing.

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        If you are really that precarious, you will probably be on the street soon anyway due to Trump’s upheaval around the world. Better get planning on how to be homeless.

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        Seriously, why do the citizens get blamed?

        …because you voted for a fraudster, child rapist for president TWICE! and many more times before that for Republicans that paved the way

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          So you blindly hate people from a country because of what it’s “leaders” are doing? What other countries do you arbitrarily hate their people? Just curious how deep this national prejudice/bigotry goes.

          I sure as fuck didn’t vote for him, bold claim to imply I did. And you avoided answering the fucking question I asked. What would you have us do, realistically? Answer the fucking question instead of using blind prejudice/bigotry as a defense.

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            So you blindly hate people from a country because of what it’s “leaders” are doing?

            Not blindly as said citizens are responsible for electing this particularly shitty regime TWICE… and not “hate”, just disapproval

            I sure as fuck didn’t vote for him, bold claim to imply I did.

            I never said you did… it’s called “generalization”, look it up

            What would you have us do, realistically?

            Protest… look what French people do when their gov does shitty stuff. At this point I would settle for anything that is not what you are doing, which is pretending to be hapless victims of your own shitty doing.

            Answer the fucking question instead of using blind prejudice/bigotry as a defense.

            I see you live up to the American standard and read at a 6th grade level.

            Your first questions was “why do the citizens get blamed?” and I told you it’s because you voted this gov in TWICE…

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        Because it takes a village to raise a child, and youre the village.

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    The question is, will the Secret Service do its duty if he decides to nuke Iran? Because he sounds crazier than ever to me, if any President would, it’s him.

    Hopefully, an agent will follow their oath to protect the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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      Considering the SS paraded the photographers and journalists around Trump when his “ear got shot off,” and that crane that slowly lowered the flag down for that infamous picture. I’d say they’re all for on board.

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        Almost as if brutal colonialism and wars for profit makes people despise you.

        who knew, right?

        Yes and that includes Russian and China too, before you cry with the only strawman you can come up with.

        Nothing is ever the west’s fault is it?

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      Absolutely crazy how many terminally online people casually call for someone to just throw their life away.

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        Saying you’re surprised something hasn’t happened is a long shot from encouraging that it’s done.

        With the amount of unstable and desperate people out there I’m surprised nobody’s kidnapped Elon musks kids for ransom. I don’t wish his kids any harm, and don’t hope it happens, but I’m still a bit surprised that it hasn’t happened when you consider the amount of people out there with nothing to lose, questionable morals, and a big desire to make a lot of money.

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        I mean at least 1/3 of Americans say it’s why we have the 2nd amendment. And 2/3 of the Supreme Court would likely agree, just they wouldn’t admit we are at that point where it is necessary. It’s ingrained in our culture down to the American revolution. But yeah, whenever leftist groups arm themselves they get wiped out, see the Black Panthers as an example.

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      Turns out that the Secret Service really is one of the few truly competent branches of government still around these days. I guess it’s just always, regardless of party or doctrine, in the best interest of the president to have the service operate with extreme competence. Trump will happily fill government branches full of incompetent goons instructed to gum up the works. He’ll happily dismantle multiple Congress-mandated departments and programs. He’ll grift off every bit of government graft he can. But I bet the Secret Service is the one he actually lets be run competently. If there’s anything the man cares about, it’s himself.

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          Getting a gun is the easiest part.

          Then you need to find an opportunity and make a plan for it. Then execute the plan and adapt to unforeseen circumstances. Training with the firearm and other preparations make sense as well. If you want to shoot Trump from close range you might need to social engineer your way into an opportunity. You will also need money for a bunch of expenses besides a gun.

          There have been two attempts to shoot Trump that I remember, maybe more. The secret service is a formidable security provider for him.

          You will also have to risk being shot by secret service or be ready to serve a long prison sentence or even the death penalty. Not such an easy decision.

          Teamwork has its own challenges. Building a team and making group decisions is already difficult, if you’re planning a fishing trip. A high profile assassination is a different league. Finally any team member might get cold feet, change their mind, and snitch to the authorities. Then you go to prison without having achieved anything of substance.

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            All very good points.

            My “teamwork” comment would work if there was a “no kings” rally but with guns and it was a march on Washington. Obviously that would be borderline impossible to organize but at this point I think a loud enough public call to action (maybe by a celeb) could actually make it happen.

            As far as doing it like James Bond, I don’t think there would be an escape there. It would be a suicide mission, accepting that you’ll die is part of it.

            Your comment never touched on fertilizer bombs like Timothy Mcvay (would be tough to get close but not impossible). Especially with an MMA event happening on the front lawn of the white house soon.

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        It is, but at the same time it happens very often. Was it half or 1/3 of all US presdents died by being shot? And most of those were not actively trying to destroy their own country and any international relations it had.

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          Actually died? Lol, no. Four out of 46, or roughly 8-9%. Lincoln, garfield, mckinley, kennedy.

          If you include those shot at you can up those numbers a bit. Off the top of my head roosevelt, trump, reagan, and the other roosevelt, ford,

          Jackson is the fun story, where an assassin pulled two pistols and both of them misfired or jammed. Taft had an assassin apprehended before he shot. Truman had assassins in the white house, but wasn’t in immediate shooting range/sight line. Nixon had a guy who wanted to shoot him, but the car went by too fast, so the assassin later shot a governor. Obama and clinton both had rifles fired at the white house.

          So if we include everything involving firearms, we have lincoln, garfield, mckinley, kennedy, roosevelts 1&2, ford, reagan, jackson, obama, and clinton. That’s 11/46, or ~24%. Bump that up a wee bit if you want taft to be included.

          There’s also some standouts for grenades and bombs, but we were originally talking about death by being shot, so…

          https://.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

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            Thanks for clarifying. Dont know where I heard that statistic from, I think it was some meme about it being the most dangerous job. I was probably remembering it wrong…

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      I think Sundays is the day when many of his closest advisers take some or all of the day off, so he’s just wandering without the distractions that normally keep him busy.

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      Spook the market Sunday, spend spend the first half of the week blustering, place Polymarket bets on Thursday, announce the problem is solved and count your profits Friday, golf on Saturday (well, actually every day, but Saturday you don’t have to tweet if you don’t want to).