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I’d pay good money to see them going door to door with their résumés, only to be met with the blank gen Z stare of children who don’t even know who owns the shop they work at, or why an old man is trying to hand them a scrap of paper with their life story on it.
Would be better if they had to apply online with an 18-25 year olds resume.
Boomers have the advantage of personal connections that they have built up over the course of a lifetime. Many of them will still be able to find a job “the old fashioned way” just through those connections.
Many still will not. Because job hunting is still garbage. But it’s still not a good way to show them reality unless they have a blank slate with 100k in student loan debt.
Would be better if they had to apply online with an 18-25 year olds resume.
…which they then need to re-type into 17 different fields in a not quite broken corporate HR website.
Don’t forget:
“sign in with <social media account>”
Asked you to create a separate password and login anyway. For some reason never uses it but requires you to use a “one time password” sent to your email each time you login.
Also, you can’t login with your email address. You have to use a username you don’t remember because your usual one is already taken.
I don’t really care about boomerism any more
make people who believe in late stage capitalism have to survive the low end of it. regardless of who they are
I’d pay to see one of those little DOGE wankers forced to work on a construction site
Fuck construction, put them in customer service
Have them apply for all these programs that people are supposedly abusing.
Woah there Satan
I have always said, if I were elected President, my first act would be to eliminate the draft and institute mandatory retail service of 2 years for everyone - especially those above a certain age and who make above a certain annual salary.
It would either force people to learn empathy and make the world a better place, or it would destroy the country. And I don’t care which.
Totally agree.
Yeah, as a millennial I can feel this. Graduated in 2008 from university and couldn’t find a single job in my field. Couldn’t find a job out of my field. Couldn’t even get hired by fucking Taco Bell.
Eventually sold my body for money.
Did you get good money for it at least?
What
Didn’t have a vehicle?
Just walk in ,demand to see the Big Boss, look him in the eye and ask for a job!
That was among the nuggets of whizdum from my Silent Gen parents.
Even in late 2000s companies were just doing resume collecting at internship or career fairs.
Hell think king of the hill was even doing episodes of how hard it was to get jobs it during its early seasons. When wallmart causes every business to go out of business
My dad had to do it because he was too old at 56 (office job). In 3 years (government support and savings) he could not find anyone who would take him. Eventually he started working small construction jobs (which he enjoys doing) through someone that did work on his house.
So I think there are plenty older people that actually know the difficulty.
Yeah, they’ve had time to build networks which definitely help.
That is the thing, the old connections were worthless. This was a connection he made after looking for a job for 3 years.
The thing that kept his head above the water were his savings and the European safety net.
Stop making this a generational war, boomers aren’t the problem. Unrestrained capitalism is.
Yeah boomers kind of are the problem they were handed much of what they have on a silver platter and then punch out at anyone else that did not get a silver platter and chalk it up to personal failure
They were lucky to be born in a period of relative wealth, and most don’t get why it’s more difficult these days, but they are not responsible for the fact that you get generations have it harder then them.
Those who have all the power are very happy when the plebs fight among themselves you know.
A lot of boomers stand in the way of change and are ULTRA shitty about it
True but also who was voting in Regan? John Howard? Everyone was happy to vote in the social rapists for a cheap paycheque as long as their specific demographic wasn’t getting raped and now we’re all paying the price.
but they are not responsible for the fact that you get generations have it harder then them.
Are you kidding? The people who are responsible are almost all boomers
My boomer parents were lucky enough to buy a house and then mortgage renwel rate came in at 21% there was no silver platter, it was fries on paper plates and beans lots of beans
Also when we say that things were handed on a silver platter, we need to factor in the western oppression over the east.
The point I am trying to make here is just to ensure Western bommers have it on a silver plate, the Eastern boomers had to suffer for it. Now we live in a world where everyone except Western boomers are suffering! The hints capitalism being shit was evident and the west did not do anything to change it now is the time for a fresh new world
Like the feather of Mario World, the cycle of good/bad times and good/bad men/people, there is the oscillation, but a general upward status.
It’s been generally downwards for about 25 years now actually, still waiting on that oscillation. Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Assuming that just because things kept getting better up until the 90s so they must start getting better again soon is the kind of attitude that’s enabled capitalism to run rampant and ruin our society and our planet.
Fucking right
Trump’s a cop. We’re doing something. Wheat, weeds, remember like We said We would do?
The Earth doesn’t exist. Everything reconciles with the Omega. Focus on you and the entanglements keeping you from being the one stopping “the downward,” as you perceive it. Of course, that involves defending your position.
If they weren’t yanking up the drawbridge and making sure the rest of us have to pay for their pensions and to sit around doing nothing but collect rent, I’d agree.
(this is a somewhat tongue-in-cheek look at some reporting/analysis)
Hard disagree.
The boomer generation’s biggest crime was being a frog in a pot that’s only just coming to boil. The leopards were still in the distance and life for the most part looked good if you lack the ability to see beneath the surface.
Most people lack this ability. They are incapable of making abstract contextual links and stumble through their lives relatively blind to how the world works. Ignorant.
For most Boomers their ignorance does not make them guilty. Just foolish and weak. Fallible. That’s not enough to lay blame at their feet.
The criminals have and only ever will be the ridiculously wealthy; who’ve orchestrated this mess for wealth, power and hubris. Who’ve stood on the backs of all workers for all written history. Who’ve caused untold suffering and death. Our ire belongs with them.
Division along any other lines only serves those wealthy bastards reaping the rewards from our division.
You write as if the billionaires are the only crooks, there’s a long line of millionaires eager to commit crimes for their billionaire overlords and an even longer line of middle class folks desperate to do anything illegal or not to please their millionaire bosses. It wasn’t only millionaires that voted for brexit or voted for trump in the US.
Most of whom you speak of haven’t done anything “illegal” at least not based on our current laws. Immoral? Some of them yes, some have been complicit in some ways. But they are largely ignorant.
There’s also a difference between doing something immoral to try and survive a system you cannot change and make a good and moderate life for yourself and your family, and seeking power and wealth beyond any conceivable need. You don’t seem to be able to distinguish between the two. You see the middle class as in the same culpability as the Kings and Queens at the top with real power to make change. That’s very worrying.
Theres also a difference between being fooled by those more evil and more intelligent and cunning than they can conceive of; and being the one doing the manipulation and evil. I look at these people with pity for they know not what they do. You seem incapable of differentiating them from the masters that manipulate them.
You also seem in a great hurry to cast your anger and vengeance at a great number of people. In fact, perhaps even a large majority of people from what you’ve said.
With that in mind, in your new world, would we put all middle class families and above to the wall? Or in prison? Where is your line?
My approach would be to remove the Oligarchs only. The ones who have done demonstrable harm to the people and planet. To take their vast resources and assets and do good with it; to concentrate on righting the wrongs. Then legislate to prevent any similar situation ever happening again.
I would not want to live in a world where you paint your anger and project your trauma so broadly. It will cause generational trauma and pain for so many. It will tar many undeserving with the same brush. And it will fundamentally set us back as a species.
And fundamentally at its core, isnt logic or reason, its anger and pain writ large. I would want nothing to do with that awful and horrific future you speak of.
You’re just naive, the average person does not give a single fuck about their countrymen and will do literally anything for a million bucks. Trump is a symptom, but the disease is the banal greed of the average American, led by the boomer generation.
Yeah i want nothing to do with this future either, but it’s already here and it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. You wouldn’t have liked me if we spoke a hundred years ago either, but the rise of fascism and the second world war were coming either way.
Yes that’s exactly it, they’re ignorant to what could be. They’ve grown up in a world that nurtures greed; and settled for it because of manipulation by the system and circumstance.
But where you see them as irredeemable due to that ignorance, I see them as needing leading and showing a different path. Where you see them as in need of punishment for their ignorance and mistakes, I see them in need of educating through compassion.
Just because the system encourages psychopaths to the top of the pile doesn’t change the fact that they only make up 3% of the population. Most people, given the right chance, the right conditions, the right nurturing are fundamentally capable of good.
You’ve given up and welcome blood and death; I have hope. Hope isn’t naive, it’s all we have. The alternative is to give in to fear or anger like you have and welcome a century of pain for everyone you know and love.
And when I say your future, I mean your future. There’s this future we live in now and your proposed future. Both involve pain, suffering and inhumanity. Just of differing conditions. Whether its a Marxist-Leninist continual revolution, or a capitalists fascist state, the pain, the death, suffering and trauma it causes are the exact same.
So if that’s what you truly want. More of the same; just with different systems, you’re no better than our capitalist masters. Congrats. You’re the new problem. Not the solution.
But I suppose at least you’ll be the one wielding the stick this time eh? Fucking honestly.
To quote Luke Skywalker: “Let go of your hate”.
It blinds you.
This future is the complete opposite of what I want, but that’s what boomers are voting for. They ruined this country so they can have shinier gold clubs in retirement. Im not proposing any future at all, my proposition is that when you get hit by the fourth once in a lifetime crisis your boomer landlord will evict you the minute it’s legal. (Oh btw they’re actively pushing year-round to make it easier to evict people.)
Yes we all need hope, the hope is to get out before it gets ugly on the streets.
Who do you think it is that voted for unrestrained capitalism and has been its most ardent crusaders for 50+ years?
Por que no los dos
Boomers are a big part of the problem
Every single time I’ve known a friend who got the house that they were renting rugpulled it has been a boomer selling. Every. Single. Time.
Like yeah, my mom is a boomer and I love them dearly. The generation is rotten, and gen x isn’t much better.
who do you think threw whom under the bus for that?
Mostly it’s that in the 1950s, most of the world’s population was still pre-industrial. Industrization massively increases a country’s wealth and ability to bid for resources.
Now the whole world is industrialized, but the planet is still the same planet. The same barrel of oil can go to a refinery worker by Americans in Louisiana or workers in any number of countries that were completely undeveloped backwaters back in 1950.
“Unrestrained capitalism” is boomer pension funds acting within the bounds of policies that boomers voted to optimize for the greatest return on investment for those pension funds over the course of their life expectancy.
I’d rather one where we make lawmakers live the average life of their constituents.
Most people who give advice for free give bad advice. Half the people who give advice for money give bad advice.
The only good advice is given by someone who recently failed.
Thanks for the free advice
A bigger show would be made of people handing over their parents for social justice like this, based on bullshit they inflict upon their kids. And I mean all of it: jobs, economy, romance, marriage, everything. Lots of people’s heads become full of advice that has aged like milk, but are too stubborn to admit that’s the case.
Back it up with an intervention style forum and follow-up episodes about the inevitable counseling to follow and I’m in.
I’m 60. I’m not sure I could get another job using my own advice either.
I am working with several people trying to break into my field and it’s almost impossible. Mostly because it’s a bit of niche field, and almost everyone in it has decades of experience.
It’s considered a second entry profession so most people did something else first. There are now diplomas and certifications for young people interested in the field. As a profession we talk about how to ladder younger people in, but struggle with what entry level looks like. A few years work experience and a professional certification just doesn’t stack up in an interview against a few decades of experience.
Sounds like the company needs to create a lower level position at lower pay to get the less qualified people in. Then you can promote from that pool when you need the higher level positions.
Don’t quote me on this but I think you’re cooking! We need a name for a role that makes it easy for people to enter our industry, maybe we can call it something like entry level!
🤣
The issue with him is people with standard exp can’t get standard roles due to too many overqualified applicants.
But yeah. Opening up entry level roles for people with standard exp sucks.
You’ve got it. If I need someone with logistics experience do I take someone straight out of school who did some a co-op term with a county emergency service or someone with 15 years in the military maintaining supply lines. And if I want to prioritize civilian experience there is a whole pack of police, paras, and firefighters looking for first retirement at 40 who can leverage that experience.
Shit, I’m only 39 and don’t think anyone should try to get into my career field now. Tech’s entry level is all but gone. I don’t know who the companies plan to promote to senior roles in the future when their senior people retire…
It was rough getting into IT in my area shortly after 2008. It’s gotten worse, way worse and I know because the managers complained all the time they couldn’t find someone experienced and didn’t want to train anyone.
See that’s the thing… senior people are gonna be “replaced by AI…” so there’s no need.
/s
You don’t get it. You’re not supposed to apply in the field you worked before, or that you’re good at.
The whole point is use boomer advice to apply to the jobs that are out there, with the salaries that are out there.
The whole point is that the job market sucks and you don’t get to choose because there’s more job applicants than positions.
I’m on the side that hires. It’s ugly over here as well. We still do resumes and I screen manually - yes I actually read them because I don’t even trust HR to screen forget about AI. We get 300+ resumes for an opening and every one of them is a person with a story. At the end of the process I will have one very happy person, 5 feeling they were so close, and ~290 thinking nobody read their stuff.
Wow. Thats just crazy.
Makes me think there’s too many people for the jobs we have. I think we need ubi. Those who want to work to make extra can. But I bet if we had ubi you’d have 20 applicants instead of 300.
Next, make the Boomer buy a house without using their current assets as a down payment.
You don’t even need to be a Boomer for this to be true. I’m 38. The only reason my partner and I own a house as nice as the one we currently do is because I got on the property market pretty early. I was in a place to buy a cheap town home in 2012. I put $3k down on an FHA mortgage on a $92k townhouse, and that got me out of renting. I’ve made plenty of extra payments over the years, even paid the mortgage on that townhouse twice. Since then I got married, and we moved across the country.
But yeah, we recently moved into our third home (we own only one home.) And we bought it for $600k with $400k down. Some of that is from ordinary principal payments. Some from early payments. But the vast majority of that $600k was from simple price appreciation. We bought at the bottom of the market and have rode it all the way up. And yeah, there is no way we could afford our current place if we had to buy without that equity we’ve built up.
Yeah, make sure they really understand the economic realities facing the younger generations.
I also wanna see their face when they see their first pay check and how little it gets you
This would make for a good YouTube video. Wouldn’t even be difficult to make.
I don’t believe you could make this as a terrestrial broadcast show on the Big Three Networks, but I absolutely believe you could make it as a series of YouTube Shorts or Mr. Beast style exploitation videos.
Imagine this with a soyjack next to it.
Ah, BBC, Channel 4 and Channel 5?
Yeah, they don’t have the budget they used to
