If you actually want to support artists, don’t. YouTube Music’s royalty payout is far from stable and transparent, not to mention low to others which is already hard to beat really. Tidal comes closest (from what I found to having functionality and paying artists a more fair rate. Qobuz is there too, Deezer pioneers detecting AI garbage that people think makes them artists now. Spotify got most features ofc but they’re unethical as shit
The more they charge, the fewer will pay.
I only ever get it when they send me an offer for 3 months for like $10 or something. Otherwise, fuck off Google, I’ll watch the shitty ads.
I prefer ublock origin
Switch to AdNauseam, a fork of uBO that garbles advertisers’ click data by invisibly clicking every ad before blocking (including blocking the resulting load so it doesn’t take any further data toll). Don’t just avoid; retaliate!
Fuck yeah. I have adnauseam on all my machines. Fuck the advertisers
And it’ll increase further in the near future… Only for background play and Advert removal, 16/month is absurd considering they don’t have any content licensing headache and as such unlike Netflix, Disney + etc. Also, in case of YT Music, royalties paid out to artists are pretty opaque and pretty turbulent. Better to buy albums directly to support them. Brave FTW otherwise for YouTube
I will never pay for youtube.
This is still in the phase where its a really good deal. The reason i’ll never buy it is because I know it will not always be that way.
The only time I ever subscribed was when I could pay in Argentina. Came out to like $3.50 per month. Once they patched that loophole, they stopped getting my money.
Yeah, they’re worth maybe $5 a month or family. It’s just a bunch of B-F rate videos and they pay anyone that’s not in the B tier so little than you need to support them on patreon anyway.
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We get it for $6.5 lol cuz we from poor region
Still the best 16$ you can spend on video. My only issue is that this also correlates with increased ads which are clear net negative on our society.
Grayjay too.
Personally I prefer SmartTube
That’s what I use, but I thought it only worked on android TVs
On phone, I use revanced
Most of the revanced devs left the project (due to some issues with another dev) to found morphe, I suggest switching over to that
There’s a list of extra patches you can add to morphe here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1ta0bek/how_to_patch_more_apps_with_morphe/
You could be right. I indeed use SmartTube on my TV. It’s my primary device for watching YouTube videos.
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I’m loving noutube
Youtube already makes more money than Disney, right? So of course they ramp up prices. It‘s a successful product after all and the line must go up. The more money it makes the more expensive it‘ll get.
That‘s why you should never give them anything in the first place and use an Adblocker instead.
I would also recommend Sponsorblock because most Youtube sponsorships are overpriced garbage or complete scams. It honestly seems too good to be true but it‘s open source and apparently can cover operational costs on just donations. What I really like about Sponsorblock is how you can curate your experience to a T. It lets you skip all sort of content that you may not like such as self-promotions, credits, previews/flashbacks, intros, and more. It comes really close to the internet highways concept I have long only dreamed about where you‘re served exactly what you want and you don‘t need a silly AI agent to do any of it.
DeArrow is another useful extension for Youtube, created to remove clickbait from your feed. It removes thumbnails and changes video titles based on user suggestions similar to Sponsorblock.
Youtube „Premium“ could never give you this experience for all the money in the world.
DeArrow is another useful extension for Youtube, created to remove clickbait from your feed. It removes thumbnails and changes video titles based on user suggestions similar to Sponsorblock.
I generally use YouTube without logging in on the PC and clean history every now and then. No matter which videos I watch first, the feed gets populated with such amount of garbage, that it kinda surprises me. Softcore porn, cop and gun shit, shitty political stuff, it’s flabbergasting.
That’s unfortunately what the algorithm gives when it doesn’t know very much about you: bottom of the barrel slop. I’m the opposite and stay logged in, but I’m also diligent about removing items from my watchlist if I didn’t like them, or if I see they’re skewing the algorithm.
Same. I’ve got a decade of watch history at this point, the algorithm is pretty good at showing me videos that are actually relevant to my interests. Every once in a while I’ll click on something outside my norm and the algorithm will shake things up, but if it’s not something I’m interested in then I just hide the first couple videos and it’ll readjust again.
No
Gonna catch a lot of “get with the times” but an ad blocker and watching YouTube in browser on my phone - I’ve never seen the value of needing Premium to do adblocking or a whole ass app like Vanced. Maybe sponsorblock for more but like overall, my impression has always been YouTube Premium is a joke of a service that can never offer anything more than adblocking/sponsor block already just does from a browser on my phone.
This is why they’re trying to lock down everything. Nerfing ad blockers in chrome, semi-banning all unapproved apps in Android.
And don’t get me started on smart TVs. They were broken right out of the gate.
In addition to removing ads in YouTube, it also gives ad-free YouTube Music (which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio). But honestly, the biggest problem is the app itself shoving shorts down your throat and lacking a bunch of features that third-party clients have. And even if you pay to remove ads from YouTube, you can’t pay to remove ads from the videos themselves. You can only do that with sponsorblock, which YouTube could totally just adopt if they wanted but as is, you have to use third part apps anyway.
I’ve only had that problem with YouTube Music if I’m trying to listen from inside YouTube itself (via clicking Music in YouTube’s sidebar). Both the actual Music app and webpage both seem to play the audio-only versions, not the music video versions. I’ve got plenty of songs that if I try listening through YouTube will have the video version (often with end title cards and whatnot).
(which fucking sucks because it always plays the video version of the audio).
I disabled them in settings a couple of years ago and have not had issues since.
That switch does not work. It turns off the videos but still plays the video versions, which is even worse. I’m not sure it even knows the difference.
I ended my Premium subscription about six months ago and instead got a VPN set to Albania. Ads? Gone. I live fucking with the google’s data harvesting operations
You can also install ReVanced on Android
Copying my other comment from this thread:
Most of the revanced devs left the project (due to some issues with another dev) to found morphe, I suggest switching over to that
There’s a list of extra patches you can add to morphe here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MorpheApp/comments/1ta0bek/how_to_patch_more_apps_with_morphe/
Or grayjay.app or Firefox with ublock origin or lots of ways that don’t involve giving Google money
On my mom’s apple TV?
Unwatched works on ios, not sure about tv
The ones who scream the loudest about this never have a solution for Apple devices and it’s annoying.
They exist; people just don’t take the time to figure it out and give an answer.
As much as I disagree with their practices, Brave browser on iOS will block YT ads.
On iOS you can get uBlock Origin Lite for Safari and it works very well. You can also download the Orion browser which lets you get Firefox and Chrome extensions and can get uBO or whatever else that way too.
The ones who scream the loudest about this never have a solution for Apple devices and it’s annoying.
We saw Apple’s closed ecosystem as the trap that it is, and avoided it. Can’t really help you if you’re still inside the cage.
You’re also missing out on a bunch of other cool shit, honestly.
But I get it, it is convenient. I’m not mad. I just also can’t help you fly free until you leave the cage.
“Flee the cage” to another company that’s going to limit what I can and can’t load AND is selling my data at every possible moment?
Who’s the one deluding themselves now?
I didn’t recommend Google and I don’t sit in their cage either.
We early adopters are so far further away than you imagine.
Here’s the starter kit, if you’re ready:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint
- ~~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LineageOS~~
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GrapheneOS
Edit: lol. fuck it, you sound angry, and anger might be what you need to go all the way. Added link to GrapheneOs.
So what company do you recommend?
I don’t know about Apple TV. But for Android TV you can install SmartTube
I just installed ReVanced and it’s full of ads. How do I stop that?
Where did you download it?
Try morphe, it’s the current modern version of revanced.
There is a chance that its a knock off pretending to be revanced
Newpipe is free. You can donate to support if you’d like. No account required, so no tracking. Subs and history are stored locally. And with an internet condom (VPN) no IP exposure.
PipePipe = NewPipe + SponsorBlock.
How are they not getting blocked?
I’ve thought of mass scraping youtube for music, but it’s not worth ths risk of being banned by Google for life.
Newpipe (and all the other ad blockers) are playing cat and mouse with them. They make some changes which screw up blockers, blockers patch and return to service pretty quickly. I couple months ago they went so far as to force javascript proof of work, I was able to setup yt-dlp with the javascript engine in like 5 minutes and keep going.
They target different things, sometimes the try to block high quality streams, sometimes it’s not logged in streams, sometimes it’s streams from certain ips. They keep moving the cheese, deleting this rss feed or that stream type. At some point, they’ll implement actual encryption like widevine and make it actually difficult to get at the streams, at which point, we’ll just screen record, commercial skip and the best of the best will end up in torrents.
Their music quality is general marginal. Research soulseek.
Can’t use soulseek fairly without opening a port; I’m exclusively on mobile internet with a VPN without port forwarding… I might pay for home wifi for one month out of the year to fill my drive…
afaik you can’t screen record DRM content, it’s encrypted all the way to the TV or monitor. The OS never sees a decrypted stream. This is why if you try to screenshot Netflix the window just appears as a black frame.
Yeah, but you can but a $10 HDMI splitter from china with a HDCP key on it and hook a video capture to the other end.
I’m sure in the future they’ll have a firmware update system for rotating their keys if they’ve been leaked. And if you try to keep your TV offline to prevent the key rotation, they’ll still rotate the encryption key for the stream (maybe wait a year for most people to receive the firmware update), and your offline TV won’t be able to decode the stream anymore
They’ve been leaked for 15 years now.
Yes but I’m saying the tech could get more advanced and locked down, like all DRM tech has been progressing
Youtube what? Ohhh, that annoying popup I always decline. Apparently the price only matters if you buy it.
