Yeah fair enough. I think Hamas and Israel are both run by bad people with blood on their hands, although yes it looks like Israel currently has more blood on their hands, since they have killed far more civilians since October 2023 than Hamas has.
I think if they were fighting the IDF and not harming civilians that would be better. And I also think things would be better if Israel were to stop harming Palestinian civilians, stop colonising the West Bank, recognise the state of Palestine, and have productive relations with Palestine.
It was a yes or no question. Does hamas lose the right to resist colonization by targetting the occupation force because of the atrrocities it commited during october 7?
Okay I will answer the question differently. No I don’t think Hamas does “lose the right to resist” because of Hamas killing civilians. But I still think killing civilians is wrong, and preferably war crimes (such as harming civilians) should have legal consequences, whether those crimes are committed by Israelis, or Palestinians, or anybody.
Edit: just to clarify, when it comes to “the right to resist”, I don’t think that includes the right to harm civilians. But if Hamas were to attack IDF infrastructure and try to push the IDF out of Palestine then I could see the case for that. If it’s acceptable for Israel to use weapons to defend Israeli territory then it should be equally acceptable for Palestinians to use weapons to defend Palestinian territory.
“I condemn all effective militant resistance against Nazi Germany, but I also think it would be nice if Nazi Germany stopped being so mean and behaved itself! I’m a sensible moderate!”
I’m saying that I don’t think it’s right to harm civilians, whether it’s Palestinian civilians, Israeli civilians, or any other civilians. I don’t support Israel’s current extremist government.
I’m saying that I don’t think it’s right to harm civilians
So if you were alive during the Holocaust would you be making sure to butt into discussions about Nazi crimes to go on about how you also condemn the Warsaw ghetto uprising? Because that’s basically exactly what you’re doing here.
I don’t support Israel’s current extremist government.
Implying you do support their previous genocidal apartheid governments. Apparently harming civilians is ok so long as the oppressor is doing it.
It’s abundantly obvious that you support Israel but think open mask off Zionism damages its public image.
So if you were alive during the Holocaust would you be making sure to butt into discussions about Nazi crimes to go on about how you also condemn the Warsaw ghetto uprising?
Maybe I would have if that uprising had indiscriminately shot at German civilians, who may have been people who didn’t support the Nazis at all.
If Hamas had been going after the IDF then fair enough, I can see why they would do that. I just don’t think harming civilians is right.
It’s abundantly obvious that you support Israel
I definitely don’t support their genocide of Palestinians.
Maybe I would have if that uprising had indiscriminately shot at German civilians, who may have been people who didn’t support the Nazis at all.
The Polish resistance absolutely killed civilians, and Hamas absolutely didn’t “indiscriminately” shoot civilians. You’re once again making it extremely obvious that you’re a Zionist being dishonest, otherwise you wouldn’t be reproducing their propaganda.
I definitely don’t support their genocide of Palestinians.
Lol, least obvious Zionist. And even this isn’t true, given you’ve said you supported previous administrations genocides
Yeah fair enough. I think Hamas and Israel are both run by bad people with blood on their hands, although yes it looks like Israel currently has more blood on their hands, since they have killed far more civilians since October 2023 than Hamas has.
Do you think hamas still have the right to fight the colonial army despite the attrocities they commited?
I think if they were fighting the IDF and not harming civilians that would be better. And I also think things would be better if Israel were to stop harming Palestinian civilians, stop colonising the West Bank, recognise the state of Palestine, and have productive relations with Palestine.
It was a yes or no question. Does hamas lose the right to resist colonization by targetting the occupation force because of the atrrocities it commited during october 7?
Okay I will answer the question differently. No I don’t think Hamas does “lose the right to resist” because of Hamas killing civilians. But I still think killing civilians is wrong, and preferably war crimes (such as harming civilians) should have legal consequences, whether those crimes are committed by Israelis, or Palestinians, or anybody.
Edit: just to clarify, when it comes to “the right to resist”, I don’t think that includes the right to harm civilians. But if Hamas were to attack IDF infrastructure and try to push the IDF out of Palestine then I could see the case for that. If it’s acceptable for Israel to use weapons to defend Israeli territory then it should be equally acceptable for Palestinians to use weapons to defend Palestinian territory.
I guess we agree. I believe hamas shoulf be handle accountable after occupation end not before
It’s all Palestinian territory
“I condemn all effective militant resistance against Nazi Germany, but I also think it would be nice if Nazi Germany stopped being so mean and behaved itself! I’m a sensible moderate!”
No I’m not saying that. I’m just saying I don’t think it’s right to harm civilians specifically.
Which militant resistance group defending Palestine don’t you condemn?
Saying you condemn Israel but also all militant resistance against Israel is just saying you support Israel.
I’m saying that I don’t think it’s right to harm civilians, whether it’s Palestinian civilians, Israeli civilians, or any other civilians. I don’t support Israel’s current extremist government.
So if you were alive during the Holocaust would you be making sure to butt into discussions about Nazi crimes to go on about how you also condemn the Warsaw ghetto uprising? Because that’s basically exactly what you’re doing here.
Implying you do support their previous genocidal apartheid governments. Apparently harming civilians is ok so long as the oppressor is doing it.
It’s abundantly obvious that you support Israel but think open mask off Zionism damages its public image.
Maybe I would have if that uprising had indiscriminately shot at German civilians, who may have been people who didn’t support the Nazis at all.
If Hamas had been going after the IDF then fair enough, I can see why they would do that. I just don’t think harming civilians is right.
I definitely don’t support their genocide of Palestinians.
The Polish resistance absolutely killed civilians, and Hamas absolutely didn’t “indiscriminately” shoot civilians. You’re once again making it extremely obvious that you’re a Zionist being dishonest, otherwise you wouldn’t be reproducing their propaganda.
Lol, least obvious Zionist. And even this isn’t true, given you’ve said you supported previous administrations genocides