• Elting@piefed.social
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      2 days ago

      What is it about non-materialism that you guys seem to find so upsetting? Is it that it decenters your experience of the self? Is it the idea of unknowable truth? Its like I have attacked you personally by suggesting another way of looking at reality.

      Edit: One of the reasons I have rejected materialism/physicalism is that you can’t have free will under it. Its deterministic. I think most people, even those that turn to that way of thinking for comfort, find the idea of no free will disturbing.

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        I reject it for the same reason I am staunchly anti-religious: I think the acceptance of magical thinking is a net negative for society.

        Free will is overrated. It feels like we have it and whether it’s real or not has no impact on our actions. You’ve traded one illusion for another.

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          2 days ago

          I would contend that believing all can be known is magical thinking on its own.

          • Miaou@jlai.lu
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            That’s why it’s not a scientific theory, not since quantum physics is a thing.