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    Perhaps the statistical rise in usage is due to the fact that reporting usage was criminal before decriminalization.

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      Yep, and there’s plenty of people who would benefit from a some marijuana usage, but would never do it through other means.

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      That is not at all how analysis works. You can read the article or paper to learn.

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        The article says nothing to the matter. The link to the summary of the paper says nothing to the matter. Where is the account for false reporting?

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      Exactly this. I hate those stupid propaganda “news”. It’s pretty obvious why.

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        Maybe read the article to see how science is done. They’ve accounted for this.

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    Freeman said the findings, published in Lancet Psychiatry, were “encouraging” for policymakers who were considering decriminalising cannabis or strictly regulating the drug in legal markets. The impact of an open market, where the drug is sold in a similar way to alcohol and tobacco, was very different, however.

    This is an article about how capitalism ruins everything.

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      This is an article about how people like to get high, and the ability to safely buy quality/trust worthy product makes them feel more comfortable doing so.

      You could make every dispensary a Government entity in the way that some states run their liquor stores, and the effect would be exactly the same. Stop making capitalism the boogieman for every negative you perceive in the world.

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        This entire penguin has a point.

        It’s time to nationalize all vital industries.

        Starting with cannabis.

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          This penguin would prefer a different administration in charge before we nationalize anything.

          And realistically a more robust system of government with better safeguards.

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            I dunno, if Trump decided he wanted to nationalize spacex on the grounds of national defense I’d support it.

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              I mean, I get what you’re saying. But I’m also sure the orange regime would find some way to embezzle a trillion or so more of our taxpayer dollars in the balance.

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                Yeah I was being tongue in cheek about supporting trump, but I still think nationalizing spacex is a good idea. Having the value of Elon’s company making up such a huge percentage of everyone’s retirement account and then having no oversight over his actions are fucked up. Not to mention the military implications of star link. Dude needs to be reined in

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        My states liquor stores are all state run, dispensaries are private. For every liquor store there’s probably at least 3 or 4 dispensaries. It’s crazy how many more places there are to buy weed than liquor here and I’m all for it lol

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          Really? How useful, really, is having so many of them? I feel like there are so many more kinds of storefront that could use that space and serve a better spectrum of the community. The weed shops I’ve been in have all had very little inventory for the size of the space they’re in.

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            Weed shops around me usually have all sorts of inventory. Ounces range from 60 for basically shake and popcorn nugs to over 300 for “designer” strains! I usually buy ounces between 100 and 120$ and their pretty gas testing 20-27 % depending on strain. Only usefulness to so many storefronts for me is that I have lots of choice and price competition. I think part of why there’s so many pot shops around me is in the winter we see a huge influx of tourists, so I think most of their business comes from out of staters.

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              I’m from a state with state-owned liquor stores. I like them a lot more that independent stores because they have very reasonable prices and a wild variety in what they stock, local and international major and specialty brands. I’d like to see the same model for weed shops.

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                I agree I think state owned dispensaries could be awesome! I do find it pretty rich that my state only allowed state owned liquor, but only has private cannabis shops. I thought the idea was to regulate them in a similar manner, which they clearly aren’t lol.

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        OMG! Thank you! I’m eager to see people stop doing this, just as soon as capitalist propaganda stops pretending it’s the solution to every problem. It’ll be so nice not to have to fight again those trillions wit my widdle voice that’s apparently more overbearing than the captured media and school system propaganda.

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          I really just don’t understand how you’re relating this story to capitalism? Were dealer’s not working in a capitalist way prior to legal weed? Did your dealer just give you weed?

          It’s such a reach to blame capitalism here that this clearly is the only arrow in your quiver. Which tells me you’re probably just bad at life, so you blame capitalism for everything.

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    In places that opened up commercial markets for cannabis, such as the US and Canada, researchers saw more users and increases in drug potency. More people also visited hospital with psychosis and other mental health issues linked to the drug, they found.

    Where cannabis was decriminalised in Europe, Africa, Oceania and Asia, there was little evidence of any change in usage or psychiatric illness. The experience was similar in Uruguay, where cannabis has been legalised but is tightly controlled by the state.

    So unfettered and unregulated capitalism causes mental health issues but we already knew that but always nice to see another data point.

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    I feel like a lot of the problems could be solved if you could get some low potency stuff instead of the weapons grade stuff they all sell.

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      You could just smoke less. I would rather inhale as little as possible. Use a one hitter and both problems solved. Lighter on your wallet too. Then there’s always the option of mixing in CBD or something as a buffer if you prefer to smoke giant blunts or something for ego.

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        Yeah, but smoking(well, in my case, vaping the dry flower, but same thing really) something is part of the fun for a lot of people. You sit there, occasionally taking a puff, and it’s all part of the relaxation ritual.

        So when I imbibe, I would inevitably get totally zooted if I smoked the stuff I used to get online, or lived in America.

        Hapily I live in Australia, and the only dealer I know is an old lady who sells bush weed of questionable quality at best, and I carefully don’t look for any other sources. So I can sit there and take constant little hits and get pleasantly stoned as fuck without having to worry about things like inability to walk.

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          You can still get stains marketed as high CBD/low THC that don’t get you blitzed. As a skeptic of the claimed benefits of CBD, I still go for those because I don’t want to melt into my couch.

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              Those are harder to find for me in the US. They were a thing for a while then just vanished. So now I just buy cdb by itself and mix it in. Still kinda hard to find CBD locally, but online has some really amazing options. If and when it comes to you hopefully it’s not like that.

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            Yeah and then get anhedonia coupled with all the thinking time you’ve been having fooling you into old issues opening up old wounds in your mind and fueling depression

            Then you quit, realize it’s not bad without, live a while then find a reason to have a few tokes again because yolo

            And then your tolerance is back in one day, weed tastes better now than it did and got cheaper so you rejoice and then get anhedonia

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                Since you agree, may I inquire about your opinion on ambition

                What I mean is, I still see myself smoking all day everyday if I ever were to “make it”. Say we are billionaires, what would we do all day?

                I would feel terrible about owning more than I need, burning fuel for selfish reasons and truthfully could get the best products tailor made so would not need to consume anything after for quite a while

                I still believe at that point I would be fucked up on weed and growing it.

                I don’t know if this mindstate is wrong anymore. Capitalism is geared towards hedonism

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                  The problem I see with the anhedonia is that it comes from the cannabis replacing all the pleasurable chemical signals in your brain that come from other stuff.

                  If you basically have a nice farm in the country, fuck-you money, etc, and all the weed you’d ever want, then yes, you could be happy, in a way, smoking 24/7. But you’d never get anywhere beyond that, because the pleasure of doing anything else would be hard to feel, and it would be way easier to feel happy from the weed.

                  That’s one reason I save it for rare occasions now.

                  Of course, the problem with my theory above is that I also stopped because it was no longer fun.

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      The potency is crazy. I don’t get the edibles.

      “Take 1/4 of this and it will wreck you”

      Why would I eat 1/4 of a gummie bear and save it for later? Why can’t I just eat a bowl of gummies, through the night, like beer?

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      I really enjoyed the D8(?) thc. Didn’t cause tolerance buildup like regular weed and kept my head from getting fuzzy. Also prevented me from getting totally zooted - it actually just took the edge off like I want.

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      Yeah I think lower grade potency would really see a market. Like gimme some ditch weed that I can tell usee to be a brick and that I can pick the seeds out of. Those old head supply lines gotta still be around right?

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        Idk what’s available where u are at but I can legally purchase anything from what I would describe as green crack that a bowl of will have me off my rocker to some mid ass outdoor shit that a joint of wouldn’t get my left eyeball stoned. The last state I lived in did not offer any “cheap” weed however, not sure why more variety is available up here

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      The THC seltzers solved that problem for me. Where I live, plenty of 2 and 5mg options for those with low tolerance.

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    Boy it will be like a sitcom when a bunch of old Millennials will describe to their teenage black market pot dealers what it was like when it was legal.

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      it’ll be old hippies talking about the days before the controlled substances act all over again…