Do you think its the last two+ decades of a staunchly anti-islam media thats had an effect on you?
No I can just look at a chart
Also I just realised I didn’t say anything about Islam, I just said “that’s the pattern you picked up?”, looks like you picked up on it as well but for some reason feel the need to defend Islam, how odd!
What did you mean by your reply to the first commenter?
Don’t be coy about you’re bigoted view now, you’ve started the conversation you obviously want to have. Do lets talk, yet again, about how you have this unreasonable hatred of a quarter of the world. You wanna fly over to some random example that suits your argument from Sweden again? That was fun! :p
For those reading on: We’ve talked a lot about their bigoted view on this subject in the past check our comment histories.
Lol, we get into it every few weeks. Its funny, in a depressing sort of way. 😅
Its sad because we share the same server, its a somewhat sub-lemmy community apart, I see unrelated subject comments from them daily and find them interesting. So its a shame theres such an unjustified vitriol against, (waves around generally), Muslims.
Enjoy the rest of the show, and hope to see you next time. Dont forget to buy some merch on your way out! 😆
I don’t answer bad faith questions. Which is what you asked.
No answer to my (bad faith) questions?? Didn’t think so,
beCauSe it GivEs yoU unCoMfORtabLe fEeliNgs (aboUt a QuARtEr of tHe wORld)👍
great line…
Good luck with your bigoted crusade, it was a failure from the beginning.
Its just great that theres Australians like you out there actively fucking our relationship with so many good people, all because you can’t accept you were played to hate the ‘big scary other’ by some spoiled oligarch.
I’ve told you before, i hope you listen to this one day. You don’t judge groups of people for the fews crimes. Everybody worked that out thousands of years ago, about time you took the lesson.
Australia is a country that accepts gay couples, hates the big banks, considers second-generation migrants “Australian”, but the majority feel negatively towards Islam.
51% of Australians had unfavourable sentiments towards Islam, and only 10% looked upon the religion positively, making Australia more negative than 17 of the other 22 countries surveyed.
In fact, 37% of people said they were “very unfavourable”– the most negative response available. This was far higher than the milder option of “fairly unfavourable” (14%), and made it the single most common response to the religion. 23% of people were neutral.
all because you can’t accept you were played to hate the ‘big scary other’ by some spoiled oligarch.
When you say this it’s actually your brain trying to rationalise and harden your beliefs by simplifying mine by throwing quite frankly insulting ad hominems at me
Yes mate it was the oligarch’s🙄
You’ve figured me out, I have no factual or rational reason for hating an awful disgusting backwards religion, I have a simple surface level understanding of it, it’s beliefs and the people who follow it, in your mind I’m a lemming, maybe next you’ll accuse me of watching Sky News or reading news.com.au, something like this, in your mental model I’m a stereotype who’s too dumb to think for himself, and you’re a genius compared to me, of course you are, you’ve thought about it and I’m just following Sky News which I watch every day and also talk back radio and then I agree with everything they say because I’m not smart enough to think for myself…
but anyway, this isn’t about feelings, nor the popularity or unpopularity of Islam, nor for some reason why you never seem to bring up oligarchs or other dumb shit when I criticise Christians/Jews/Hinduism/Astrology/etc
One of the reasons I have no sympathy for Islam is because if I lived in an Islamic country (including but PARTICULARLY those at the top of the chart) my head would be rolling down a hill for a charge of blaspheming against the violent pedo king of Islam, Mohammad
But thankfully I live in the west where I can say such things 🥰
Anyway I’ve missed my train writing this and I need to go home so, have a good one, onto the next :)
Don’t miss your trains on account of writing that. It wasn’t worth it. This prick on the web isn’t worth that.
bring up oligarchs or other dumb shit when I criticise Christians/Jews/Hinduism/Astrology/
No I’m sure I would, but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about one in particular. I don’t really come across your commentary of the others. Which is, notable. I actually just upvoted your astrology comment somewhere else in this thread.
Yes mate it was the oligarch’s🙄
Sure, this is me testing theories. I hope I’m wrong, but you give me no reason to believe your disturbing lack of nuance towards a whole group of people in this world isn’t influenced, as so many (including me) are, by these well funded and ongoing campaigns of division.
quite frankly insulting
I try to be reasonable in my arguments, but sometimes the truth hurts…
Ooh! Thats almost as fun a line as yours from before!
because it gives you uncomfortable feelings (about a quarter of the world)👍
I’ve never said all Australians think like me, they definitely don’t, and thats not due to some zero sum framework about dumbness/smartness. Those aren’t terms I think in, which I might be part of the divide.
Thats why I rarely push back on your survey evidence of Australian thoughts. It usually tracks. I criticise your motivations. I try to get you to ask yourself if this crusade is actually good for,
You
Your Nation
World Peace, (which is good for you and your nation).
Promoting hate and division, especially of a huge and such highly varied group to an extent to be almost meaningless, such as ‘islam’ is the very backwards thinking you accuse them of.
Think back to Pauline’s speech last week, ‘monocultural’, is exactly opposite to what is great about this country and backwards as shit. She would certainly be in the red on your chart. The Islamic faiths and the individual people associated with it are as varied as they are many.
No group is made up of only good people, atheists are not some amazing advancement of humanity it does nongood for atheists to think they’re better than anyone else. And theres no such thing as a good people and bad people, thats almost a religious dogma. We’re good and shit to more or lesser degrees at different points in our own lives, thats it.
Do you think its the last two+ decades of a staunchly anti-islam media thats had an effect on you? This is such an odd post to randomly come across.
Hey btw, nice to come across an AZer on wild lemmy :)
I thought of a cartoon inspired by this post, it could be funny,
A few people sitting in a quiet room,
Ikt walks in, “I hate Islam”, walks back out.
Confused room ensues.
No I can just look at a chart
Also I just realised I didn’t say anything about Islam, I just said “that’s the pattern you picked up?”, looks like you picked up on it as well but for some reason feel the need to defend Islam, how odd!
😂 Wrong again Ikt. I know you. And I know why you said,
I heard journalists at the National Press Club last week with better got-ya’s.
The you omg this is making my night.
yeah but i never said islam
Lets start at the beginning: What is it about the chart that made you think i was thinking of islam :)
Best chance to explain your post is now,
What about the graph caught you’re eye?
What made you feel the need to share it?
What did you mean by your reply to the first commenter?
Don’t be coy about you’re bigoted view now, you’ve started the conversation you obviously want to have. Do lets talk, yet again, about how you have this unreasonable hatred of a quarter of the world. You wanna fly over to some random example that suits your argument from Sweden again? That was fun! :p
For those reading on: We’ve talked a lot about their bigoted view on this subject in the past check our comment histories.
Ooohh shit this is some popcorn level lore. Hope I see yall duking it out again someday.
Lol, we get into it every few weeks. Its funny, in a depressing sort of way. 😅
Its sad because we share the same server, its a somewhat sub-lemmy community apart, I see unrelated subject comments from them daily and find them interesting. So its a shame theres such an unjustified vitriol against, (waves around generally), Muslims.
Enjoy the rest of the show, and hope to see you next time. Dont forget to buy some merch on your way out! 😆
Well thanks for playing our “straight man” in this double act lmfao!!!
Love me some merch. Although I am afraid of contributing to any unnecessary discourse over splitting profits… that I won’t be assured I can spectate.
Good to see you’ve dodged the question because it gives you uncomfortable feelings (about a quarter of the world)👍
I don’t answer bad faith questions. Which is what you asked.
No answer to my (bad faith) questions?? Didn’t think so,
great line…
Good luck with your bigoted crusade, it was a failure from the beginning.
Its just great that theres Australians like you out there actively fucking our relationship with so many good people, all because you can’t accept you were played to hate the ‘big scary other’ by some spoiled oligarch.
I’ve told you before, i hope you listen to this one day. You don’t judge groups of people for the fews crimes. Everybody worked that out thousands of years ago, about time you took the lesson.
You mean the majority of us?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/04/australians-accepting-of-migrants-but-negative-towards-islam-poll-finds
When you say this it’s actually your brain trying to rationalise and harden your beliefs by simplifying mine by throwing quite frankly insulting ad hominems at me
Yes mate it was the oligarch’s🙄
You’ve figured me out, I have no factual or rational reason for hating an awful disgusting backwards religion, I have a simple surface level understanding of it, it’s beliefs and the people who follow it, in your mind I’m a lemming, maybe next you’ll accuse me of watching Sky News or reading news.com.au, something like this, in your mental model I’m a stereotype who’s too dumb to think for himself, and you’re a genius compared to me, of course you are, you’ve thought about it and I’m just following Sky News which I watch every day and also talk back radio and then I agree with everything they say because I’m not smart enough to think for myself…
but anyway, this isn’t about feelings, nor the popularity or unpopularity of Islam, nor for some reason why you never seem to bring up oligarchs or other dumb shit when I criticise Christians/Jews/Hinduism/Astrology/etc
One of the reasons I have no sympathy for Islam is because if I lived in an Islamic country (including but PARTICULARLY those at the top of the chart) my head would be rolling down a hill for a charge of blaspheming against the violent pedo king of Islam, Mohammad
But thankfully I live in the west where I can say such things 🥰
Anyway I’ve missed my train writing this and I need to go home so, have a good one, onto the next :)
Don’t miss your trains on account of writing that. It wasn’t worth it. This prick on the web isn’t worth that.
No I’m sure I would, but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about one in particular. I don’t really come across your commentary of the others. Which is, notable. I actually just upvoted your astrology comment somewhere else in this thread.
Sure, this is me testing theories. I hope I’m wrong, but you give me no reason to believe your disturbing lack of nuance towards a whole group of people in this world isn’t influenced, as so many (including me) are, by these well funded and ongoing campaigns of division.
I try to be reasonable in my arguments, but sometimes the truth hurts…
Ooh! Thats almost as fun a line as yours from before!
I’ve never said all Australians think like me, they definitely don’t, and thats not due to some zero sum framework about dumbness/smartness. Those aren’t terms I think in, which I might be part of the divide.
Thats why I rarely push back on your survey evidence of Australian thoughts. It usually tracks. I criticise your motivations. I try to get you to ask yourself if this crusade is actually good for,
Promoting hate and division, especially of a huge and such highly varied group to an extent to be almost meaningless, such as ‘islam’ is the very backwards thinking you accuse them of.
Think back to Pauline’s speech last week, ‘monocultural’, is exactly opposite to what is great about this country and backwards as shit. She would certainly be in the red on your chart. The Islamic faiths and the individual people associated with it are as varied as they are many.
No group is made up of only good people, atheists are not some amazing advancement of humanity it does nongood for atheists to think they’re better than anyone else. And theres no such thing as a good people and bad people, thats almost a religious dogma. We’re good and shit to more or lesser degrees at different points in our own lives, thats it.
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I took it out specifically just to annoy Lemmy users