Nah, the 12 dead laptops undef my bed I use for hardware salvage and experiments are device hoarding. The multiple disassembled game consoles in my closet is device hoarding. None of it is sorted, the retro stuff isn’t sorted, the new stuff isn’t sorted.
I’m device hoarding. The average consumer is absolutely not.
Godspeed, you future museum contributor!
The hope is to eventually open a repair cafe/lounge with the
carcassesdisassembled dead retro units as display piecesThe MSP I briefly worked at kept a bunch of notable obsolete computers in the main entry way as a kind of “museum” but they didn’t really have the vision to make it look like actual displays, so it kinda almost looks like it’s warm storage for hardware that could be pressed into service any day now
My sibling in Aiyuna, that is a museum with extra steps <3
If you make it there and happen to recall this interaction, I would be glad to hear of it!
In a heartbeat, friend!
Is it hoarding or simply a step of Reduce, Reuse Recycle?
My pallet of used office PCs I got for $200 but have barely handed off any is device hoarding, keeping your phone for 2-4 years before upgrading is just being financially prudent
Money hoarding by billionaires is literally destroying the entire world
It’s funny how thrift and frugality will ruin the economy for everyone but gambling with other people’s homes and retirement funds is good business sense.
That movie always wilds me out because it was so much better back then for this shit, and it was still recognized that it’s insane we live like this.
“some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses.”
“Those who died are justified; by wearing the badge, they’re your chosen whites”
These problems have been seen forever. Everyone is comfortable working through controlled opposition so we just chill on the ratchet. Its only going to get worse until people grow a spine and stop being tolerant, which is never going to happen.
Man, I know. Too many people didnt understand the point of these events or the cultural icons that spoke about them, and instead chose sides of an imagined political spectrum in North America. Abbie Hoffman and Fred Hampton are rolling in their graves.
What is this from?
They Live.
Yes, but what’s the name of the movie?
No, What’s on second.
Third base!
blaming the consumer again?
Instead of the billion/trillionaires that are hoarding wealth that they’ll NEVER be able to spend?
how fucking sad is it that there are people sleeping on the street, worried about their next meal will come from, meanwhile gaben has a billion$ worth of megayachts
We need to keep spending money, so that billionaires continue spending on mega yachts, so that mega yacht companies do not start firing their work force due to lack of sales
Why attack steam? Why not any other billionair? Or is epic paying you
There is no such thing as a good billionaire.
why not gaben? He gets a pass for some reason, so why not attack him. Why did you ask why i attacked him and not some other billionaire? is gaben paying you?
You’re right, he definitely needed to buy another new yacht last month. Oh, and the company that makes the yachts, because why not.
That’s real, btw.
What, is Gaben a “good one”? Please. He deserves the criticism as much as any other. Steam is the most unethical platform of its kind.
Capitalism is a cult. Must produce for the sake of production. Must consume for the sake of consumption.
If no need for something exists, it must be created. Solutions in search of problems.
Better to produce something and throw it away than to miss out on a sale, or heaven forbid give it away.
Hoard cool cars in a secret garage never to see the light of day ever again? Collecting.
Keep your phone for 5 years until you’re forced to upgrade? Hoarding.
Rough housing with your cousins at Thanksgiving? Horsing.
Having hobo sex in a brand new Prius? Soup kitchen.
Goddamn Dirty Mike and the Boys
i refuse to upgrade, because newer phones are objectively a worse experience than older ones. They keep removing features in the name of “innovation” while putting more stuff in there that the market is actively telling them they don’t want.
I miss the 90s early 2000s, where every 2 years the new products were much better, not only specs wise but categorically so. and a new phone did not cost a month of rent.
I have a 2020’s phone, and besides battery life being weaker now. I see absolutely no reason to upgrade for a marginal spec bump.
When was the last time a new feature was added? like something that would make want to have it? they are afraid of any risk and so there is absolutely no innovation. the closest thing to any risk they took is when they removed the headphone jack to sell 300$ headphones.
The whole industry is being enshitified.
Spec bumps are pretty irrelevant now anyways. Phones are currently in the land of diminishing returns for performance. They’ve been ‘fast enough’ for some time now, and the only thing that breaks them is software, not hardware. Newer hardware is marginally more efficient, so that’s the only real world benefit.
I miss the old days of android where they were trying all manner of wild ideas. I want variety where one company has an eink screen protector. Put a laser pointer on a phone because… Because. Where are the projector phones? Maybe some crazy transformer phone with modules that all clip together to turn into a robot. Sure, they never sold well, but they were cool to see.
You might even change the phone because of the battery and find out that your new device has an absolute power hog of a screen with no battery upgrade to match and your battery life is even worse now
I love my flip open smartphone. That was a new feature worth paying for. It’s so small in my pocket.
Or if you go for the “full-size”, a tablet that folds into a standard phone size.
Foldable are nice either direction you want to go.
They keep removing features in the name of “innovation” while putting more stuff in there that the market is actively telling them they don’t want.
I always put off buying a new phone for this exact reason. It feels like every iteration further strips users of the ability to remove telemetry, AI bullshit, or bloatware. I’m not paying out hundreds of dollars for a dedicated advertisement displayer that spies on me.
Yes, these people are truly insane. I recently read the following headline:
Rheinmetall shares: Fear of peace shocks investors
(Translated from German, source | Rheinmetall is an arms manufacturer)
wtf
This world is fucked.
Using an 11 year old blackberry converted to android. Kiss my ass with that phone treadmill.
Weren’t these the same people saying that we should stop buying new iPhones and avocado toast?
its in response to planned obsolescence.
Brought to you by rich boomers who bought a new car every 2 years. True story.
I never know what kind of car my dad drives because he seemingly always has a new one.
If my new car don’t last me 10 years I’m going be petty pissed off.
Had an uncle who did that, learned it from his dad. I never understood that.
Not doing that either, but from what I understand after two years cars get you the most bang for buck. So economically it makes most sense to trade it in after two years for a new one. But of course you’ll need to keep doing so to keep that *advantage "…
It only works if you paid for the very first new vehicle in cash. Save up for 2 years and cash out the subsequent vehicles as well. Then the numbers pencil out.
If you to take a loan out it’s fucking stupid.
After 2 years at 10k miles per year, historically you have lost 20% or so of the value of the car. With a 5 year loan you have paid the principle down to around 63-64% of the original value.
This means you can trade in the car for more than what you owe on the loan. The difference is a partial or total down payment on a new vehicle.
Lenders strongly encourage this behavior. Due to the amortization schedule 2/3rds of the interest is paid during the first 2 years. So people who do this with loans are always paying the highest intereston their vehicle.
The best thing to do finacially is to buy a car with 20-30k then run it for as long as possible. Once the cost of a common major repair is more than the value of the car, get another low mileage used one.
To be fair, those cars don’t just get set on fire when they’re done with them. They’re supplying the used car market.
It’s a terrible idea financially, but it isn’t actually wasteful.
The demand from it does make car manufacturers to produce more cars. It also floods the market with newer cars, causing older ones being phased out from use earlier
Any car that runs will be driven until it no longer runs
It’s more about what happens after it stops running. If used cars are scarce and prices are high it makes a lot more sense to do that expensive engine repair. If used cars are cheap, you get more repairable cars going to the wrecker.
“Costing the economy”
Thankfully wealth hoarders aka. billionaires pouring money into offshore bank accounts, unaffordable real estate, government bonds, and inflated stocks are all in our benefit. Only us peasants are being selfish.
If those billionaires wanted to increase the GDP they should pay more so more money circulates.
But they are so generous because they are protecting the rainforest in subsuharen Africa or something. Case closed, no need for tax reform, they know better and are better.
Seriously, the belittling nature of some these billionaires borders on perverse, Bezos mentioned something about how he likes to be looked at like a daddy to his employees.
The poverty caused by funneling money to the top in the kleptocracy we have will cause most people to “hoard” their devices.
