Anyway, I hope Palestinians can live in peace without Israel murdering Palestinians, and without Israelis taking Palestinian land, etc. I hope everyone in that area can live in peace and with equal rights. I don’t approve of any killings of civilians, whether it’s by Hamas or Israel. Some people say “Israel has killed far more civilians than Hamas has, since October 2023”, and yes that’s very likely true, but that doesn’t mean Hamas killed no civilians.
In the post you’re replying to I am just specifically talking about the question of whether Hamas killed civilians or not, because the post I replied to claimed:
Its been very well proven Israel slaughtered many of its own citizens that day, not Hamas.
It’s completely consistent for me to say that I regard Israel’s genocide against Palestinians as wrong, and I also regard Hamas killing Israeli civilians as wrong. You might say Israel’s genocide is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Palestinian civilians, or Israeli civilians, or anyone else.
You’re doing functionally the same thing now, so not very convincing
In the post you’re replying to I am just specifically talking about the question of whether Hamas killed civilians or not, because the post I replied to claimed:
And that post was in response to your “but what about October 7th!” deflection.
It’s completely consistent for me to say that I regard Israel’s genocide against Palestinians as wrong, and I also regard Hamas killing Israeli civilians as wrong.
And in 1945 you would have been saying “it’s completely consistent for me to regard the Holocaust as wrong while also regarding the Warsaw ghetto uprising as wrong!”
You might say Israel’s genocide is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Palestinian civilians, or Israeli civilians, or anyone else
“You might say the Holocaust is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Jewish civilians, or Nazi civilians, or anyone else”
Its been very well proven Israel slaughtered many of its own citizens that day, not Hamas.
I think Al Jazeera is known to be critical of Israel right? And they have said that Hamas killed civilians in the October 2023 attack:
Anyway, I hope Palestinians can live in peace without Israel murdering Palestinians, and without Israelis taking Palestinian land, etc. I hope everyone in that area can live in peace and with equal rights. I don’t approve of any killings of civilians, whether it’s by Hamas or Israel. Some people say “Israel has killed far more civilians than Hamas has, since October 2023”, and yes that’s very likely true, but that doesn’t mean Hamas killed no civilians.
During the Holocaust you would have always made sure to chide anyone condemning it by pointing out that the Jewish resistance killed civilians too
No I don’t think I would have “always” done that.
In the post you’re replying to I am just specifically talking about the question of whether Hamas killed civilians or not, because the post I replied to claimed:
It’s completely consistent for me to say that I regard Israel’s genocide against Palestinians as wrong, and I also regard Hamas killing Israeli civilians as wrong. You might say Israel’s genocide is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Palestinian civilians, or Israeli civilians, or anyone else.
You’re doing functionally the same thing now, so not very convincing
And that post was in response to your “but what about October 7th!” deflection.
And in 1945 you would have been saying “it’s completely consistent for me to regard the Holocaust as wrong while also regarding the Warsaw ghetto uprising as wrong!”
“You might say the Holocaust is far more significantly wrong, and yes I would agree with that, given the scale of suffering caused. But I still think harming civilians is wrong, whether it’s Jewish civilians, or Nazi civilians, or anyone else”