2,600 victims
What in the fuck took the FBI so long to act? i am so sick of hiw little our government cares about the average person
They can spent months protecting pedophiles in the Epstein files, but can’t spare the time for very serious strings of cases like this?
kash was busy being a lickspittle for a pedophile regime
It makes me wonder if this is not a false flag setup for a dissenter.
abc news
The sentence handed down to Kyle Spitze on Wednesday marks the longest federal sentence so far for any associate of 764
Wikipedia
In 2023, Bradley Cadenhead, the network’s founder, was sentenced to 80 years in prison after being convicted of crimes related to the sextortion network.
Who is retarded, me or abc news?
Maybe they don’t count the founder as an associate? I read it the same way you did, though.
In 2023, Spitze provoked his mother’s boyfriend into shooting him inside their home, prosecutors said.
Very weird framing that seems to imply if you just annoy someone too much they have no choice but to shoot you?
Provoking doesn’t necessarily mean annoying. It could be threats, aggression, bragging about his crimes… anything that might make a person want to shoot this guy. And to be fair, this article kinda makes one want to shoot this guy
None of that legally justifies shooting someone. There is only one justifiable reason to shoot someone and that is the save your own or another’s life. And if that is what they meant by “provoke” why not say that?
You may want to shoot someone for all kinds of reasons but we don’t need our media normalizing those kinds of deranged ideas.
If he used death threats and said he was going to act on them in the moment?
Then that would qualify as protecting a life. But most threats wouldn’t qualify.
It’s hard to know without details but it does sound weird
I don’t know I’ve met people like that. I just didn’t have a gun at the time.
And that’s why guns should be in communal armories, not the hands of volatile individuals.
Well yeah, but that would involve admitting responsibility we can’t have that. They are American after all.
I’ll file him under “unredeemable”.
never be rid of his evil
I’m sure feeling that right now, wishing I could unsee this face.
A federal judge has sentenced…
Shoot. That means Trump can pardon him.
Someone is getting a cabinet position!
Yo, fuck those people. A few youtube docs informed my opinion on the group. Seriously, all should be jailed with permanent internet restrictions.
Man that’s like aggressively evil
That’s the point. That’s always the point.
I am also a misanthropist. And to clear that up, not all misanthropists hate humans and want them to suffer. I see humanity as a mistake, a virus, a plague. And it’s also it’s own worst enemy.
Doesn’t mean I want everyone dead. I actually help people And am said to be the nicest mofo. E.g. I spend my day working for free in a shelter for the abused. Picking up the pieces others created. And I also spend a ton helping people up, e.g. getting a new apartment, a job, a few thousands to start anew etc.
Long story short, being misanthropist isn’t inherently an evil thing. Just a logic conclusion. If you add the usual dark tetrad of personality traits to it, then it won’t help.
You probably acknowledge that you’re using your human value system to judge the performance of humanity as a whole. We have evolved to have these concepts of good and evil because they help our tribe to grow and flourish - and you can’t deny that the human tribe has grown and flourished. So your values - including your ability for introspection and self-criticism - are a successful evolutionary adaptation which has helped your species grow and to dominate the world. So I want to thank you for being a successful organism. Well done.
and you can’t deny that the human tribe has grown and flourished.
Of course not. Same as a virus. Or a cricket swarm devouring everything in its path.
I didn’t say we weren’t evolutionary successful. We totally were and are. I don’t see anything inherently worthy here.
What is your actual point?
You are using your human value system to declare humans unworthy. This is a human thing to do. No other creatures reflect on the impact their existence has on the environment. Viruses don’t. Crickets don’t. Not even the planet itself, nor the entire universe, cares whether humans even exist or how they carry out their lives.
It’s only humans who have evolved a brain capable of making such assessments and using that to inform their behaviour. Can we use this power to rise above the bloody law of nature? Can we create a world that is fair and just, even in an uncaring universe built on the cold unbreakable laws of physics?
Yeah sure, of course. Obviously, or else we wouldn’t be talking about that now. Or talk at all.
But that’s not a point, that’s just a description of how I was able to get to such an opinion, not why I should or shouldn’t. Is there a point hidden or did you just want to come across super witty?
But hey, seeing how the majority of people slave away their life for their owners, like the good domesticated worker-bees they were raised to, your argument could even make sense 😁
You’re currently talking out of your ass and couching all context in a strictly anthropocentric analysis.
You think your assessment that humans are a scourge on the planet is objective and clear, but you miss your own anthropocentric blindspots. Like it or not, your stance is not unique, on the contrary many humans also question the direction our species is going.
The withering criticism of human activity by yourself and the many others like you is simply evidence that humans are *not* wantonly devouring the planet with no thought for the future, unlike the cricket plagues you liken us to.
Whether that is sufficient to save our society remains to be seen of course.
You think your assessment that humans are a scourge on the planet is objective and clear
Hold on, let me ask the 30,000 entire species we directly drive to extinction each year… 🦗
Your argument is “yet you participate in society” but at an even more absurd “yet you are a human” level. Yes… they are a human. But if you look at human civilization through a POSIWID lens, it can’t be anything more than a self-destructive, mass-extinction and biosphere-collapse machine. That is, factually, 99% of the measurable impact of human existence (even if we survive forever and miraculously don’t make earth uninhabitable).
The fact that millions or even billions of people can recognize this isn’t a magical trump card; your metacognition catch-22 doesn’t refute anything about the sound reasoning of the misanthrope world view.
And for the record: I’m not a misanthrope. I more firmly believe that the existence or extinction of any species is entirely neutral. It’s not strictly rational to shed tears over the death of any individual animal or species.
But I can also recognize and embrace my irrational bias as a human. It’s normal to mourn loss, or feel disgust at animal slaughter, or have diminished emotions for people physically remote & abstracted from my daily life, or crave creature comforts, or mistrust strangers… In contrast, subscribing to an ideology like the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement requires forced, rational domination of these impulses. Nobody actually wants to end human civilization in the same way that the average person doesn’t want to starve.
Optimizing for a universal and sustainable human existence isn’t about suppressing every flaw, it’s about focusing our time and energy on the most critical issues. I can still shout and scream about biosphere collapse because every extinct species has irreplaceable potential value. We obviously can’t live without pollinators, but it’s just as important that future generations will never be able to reconstruct the precise species that we evolved to cohabitate with.
Preserving beautiful and complex ecosystems is a necessity because we don’t entirely know what [in]tangible value were losing for our selfish anthropocentric existence, not because any species “deserves” to live.
Sounds like someone who wrote this from a prison cell with the goal of getting parole asap.
/s
Lol. Did it work? Is I free now?
This is more gut wrenching that fiction.
Wow. Just… The horrific things just in the article is fucked up, and I hope he gets similar treatment in prison!!
I think they should let all the hate mail through lol
“Golly, I sure hope our prison system tortures/allows the torture of its inmates. Me? Part of the problem? Never!”
Can we maybe acknowledge for 3 seconds that people are human, have human reactions, and a very common one upon seeing for the first time truly evil people who have done truly evil things is to wish bad things upon them as a knee jerk response, and that this probably doesn’t really inform their actual desired policies instead of just making a pithy reddit-snark response that ignores that context and blames them for that very human reaction?
knee jerk response […] this probably doesn’t really inform their actual desired policies
They continue advocating he be tortured in prison in their next comment nine hours after their first (along with the dumbest fucking strawman I’ve seen this month, equating to not wanting torture in prisons to wanting him released without consequence), so actually, I do think they’re short-sighted enough to unironically advocate for torture in US prisons.
You know where Anders Brevik is right now? A long-term, high-security Norwegian prison with a capacity of 160 – hardly 2x the number of people he personally killed in a neo-Nazi mass-shooting – where among other things: “As far as practicable [this does not apply to Brevik, IIRC, because it’s not practicable for him, but for context for what you’d expect to be the hardest prison in Norway], inmates shall have access to community during work, training, program or other interventions, and during their free time.” You know what that doesn’t change? What Anders Brevik is doing right now 15 years later: continuing to spend the rest of his life in prison away from the rest of society. The way it should be, not because of specific moral consideration for Anders Brevik but because it’s the only way to have a functioning prison system.
You think it’s “human” to advocate giving the government – this government, I’ll add – carte blanche to torture people; I think it’s abjectly inhuman. If you’re advocating rape in prisons, if you’re advocating torture in prisons, show some basic, human emotional maturity and consider what your foaming at the mouth for prisons to be hellholes does to society.
So you’re saying this guy’s actions are excusable and OK? He should get preferential treatment and, who knows, a pardon from Trump, right?!
A 77 year sentence is a long time to dwell on things. But is there a possibility of early parole for good behavior? These are the types of people are really don’t want on our streets.
To have harmed 2500+ girls is worse than murder IMO, only bc he convinced several to kill themselves. Kids that could’ve otherwise grown up successful or happy. To not only inflict this sort of pain and anguish, but then share it online for others to see and possibly even envy… 🤮 yeah, sorry, this guy getting a microscopic dose of his own medicine in prison might help him see things in a new light; not that I expect him to be normal.
Why would what I say be part of the problem? This guy suffering in prison would strictly be an outcome of his own actions that put him there. I’m not saying I want to torture this guy myself in the way he tortured others.
At least double down on your position
I mean I basically am. I don’t care if people agree or not, or downvote me. I’m not here for fake points nor to be a SJW, I’m here to voice my useless opinion that makes no difference like everyone else.
Fuck these kinds of people that prey on other people. That’s what it boils down to. Something bad happens to them while in prison, Oh_no_anyway.gif
I’m not here […] to be a SJW
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Look at this fucking loser. Acne, losing his hair, looks like a he was conceived inside a meth pipe. Watch what your kids are doing online folks.
There are enough reasons to hate him. You don’t have to judge people for what they look like.
You don’t need to judge them for their looks but you can certainly judge looks. This dude looks like classic meth face, which is not usually associated with being a moral and successful human being.
Moral and successful? Even if this guy was addicted to meth (which you don’t know) it’s one of the most addictive drugs on the planet. Being an addict doesn’t make anyone less of a person.
Whatever. Dude is a fuckface. I’ll call him a pimple faced loser without regrets.
In this case knowing he looks exactly like how you’d expect seems relevant.
No it’s not. I’ve known lots of people with bad hair and acne who are not sadistic monsters that torture young girls. As it happens, appearance actually has nothing to do with antisocial behavior. That sort of thinking is the very foundation of racism and discarded pseudosciences like phrenology.
Looks about white
“Conceived in a meth pipe” brightened my day, thank you 😆
I bet it brightened that meth pipe’s day too
He is just as cute as Elon Musk.
And people like you bullied him into becoming what he is. Not excusing what he did, but if people weren’t people’s worst enemy, things like that would happen less often.
And especially insecure poor intellectually challenged dumdums like yourself, that can only heighten themselves by downing others, are one of the worst things humanity has to offer.
Judge people by what they’re doing, not by how they look or other things they have absolutely no control over. Jeez, what are you? 12? Grow up man, and hurry.
Watch what your kids are doing online folks.
At least this is correct.
I love that you’re getting down-voted for pointing out something so obviously true. Why the hell would anyone bother to attack this lunatic for his appearance rather than his sadistic, antisocial behavior? The man used psychological torture and threats to manipulate young girls into physically torturing themselves and animals but the best that poster could come up with is to mock the guy’s hair and complexion.
Exactly. He’s a disgusting piece of human garbage. But surely not because he looks like that.
But I couldn’t care less about some angry down voters who just click rather than tell. Though that already tells a lot in itself 😁
american culture is broadly toxic but we mostly focus on racism/misogyny, and for some reason the overweight get a pass.
it’s more of a choice to be fat than to be bald, but it’s ok to tell bald guys they’re undatable losers. it’s almost encouraged.
i’m aware of this but STILL think these things when i come into contact with someone i see as lesser. we’re programmed to be shitty.
Oh that’s not just us-american. We’re (Germany) aren’t different. Except we also shame fat. Which often really isn’t a choice. And even if it is, It’s rarely “HM, I think I really wanna be fat!”.
But hey, at least you’re honest. also there’s a vast difference between thinking that (because it’s a thing that comes to mind, as we are nicely trained city-apes) and acting upon that impulse. I assume you don’t bully someone while being fully aware you’re bullying.
