So you fucking murder people?? Why join the fucking military if that is your solution, you’d do less harm in the world just stealing what you need. I’m poor and desperate, too, but I’d rather starve to death.
I get what you’re trying to say, but I just wanted to point out that not every military job is boots on the ground killing people. They also have desk jobs and maintenance people and whatnot. Military bases employ a whole lot of people who will never see combat.
Did you just equate working in a mine for sustenance to committing war crimes for a placement in the middle class, lifetime benefits, free education, and the expectation of respect and special treatment for the rest of your life?
It’s literally what you did. Attempting to gaslight the reader by just calling me crazy isn’t going to work, the comment and its context are right there for all to see.
American military recruits are not joining because they have no other choice, like a Liberian miner. On the contrary, they pass up lower paying jobs for it, they choose to go commit war crimes for a higher reward.
our US military is entirely voluntary, if you exclude the influence by capitalists and gov staff who direct communities to keep its people poor and desperate enough to think they can “win” by joining.
Look, I get what you’re saying, and “I was only following orders” is also a choice, and one that you should get rightfully judged for, but let’s not pretend like creating circumstances where people find themselves uneducated and without life prospects isn’t a big recruitment vector for the military.
Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you’re doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don’t choose to be a Nazi.
What point are you making exactly? We don’t have to pretend like they had no other choice…
I think we’re in agreement. I don’t think there’s a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It’s a word. Look!
reevaluate
verb
Revise or renew one’s assessment.
I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash.
If your options are to murder innocent people or to die, then lie down and get comfortable. But I have a feeling that while you are waiting, other options will occur to you.
awww. STOP VOLUNTEERING FOR THE MILITARY.
I’m poor and desperate. Whose hiring? System is working as intended.
The purpose of a system is what it does.
Unless it’s badly designed, in which case it does everything worse than intended.
Sounds like job security to me
If you think so then let me tell you about the history of planned obsolescence.
So you fucking murder people?? Why join the fucking military if that is your solution, you’d do less harm in the world just stealing what you need. I’m poor and desperate, too, but I’d rather starve to death.
I get what you’re trying to say, but I just wanted to point out that not every military job is boots on the ground killing people. They also have desk jobs and maintenance people and whatnot. Military bases employ a whole lot of people who will never see combat.
Are you? Starving to death?
People (and nations in turn) have a right to defend themselves.
“volunteering”
I’m sorry? Did the draft begin?
It depends on what you mean. They don’t exactly draft Liberian diamond miners either. Poor uneducated Liberians do that because they have to.
Holy shit…
Did you just equate working in a mine for sustenance to committing war crimes for a placement in the middle class, lifetime benefits, free education, and the expectation of respect and special treatment for the rest of your life?
Do you believe that was their point?
What do you believe was their point?
They equated surviving in a mine with moving up in society as a reward for war crimes. What do you think their point was?
Yeah that is exactly what I did, and it’s even worse, because what are you even fucking talking about.
It’s literally what you did. Attempting to gaslight the reader by just calling me crazy isn’t going to work, the comment and its context are right there for all to see.
American military recruits are not joining because they have no other choice, like a Liberian miner. On the contrary, they pass up lower paying jobs for it, they choose to go commit war crimes for a higher reward.
our US military is entirely voluntary, if you exclude the influence by capitalists and gov staff who direct communities to keep its people poor and desperate enough to think they can “win” by joining.
Is it really voluntary when you have no other recourse? When the circumstances of your life are so hopeless that is seems like the only option?
Work at a gas station or go murder brown people for way more money and paid education?
It’s a choice, a selfish one.
Look, I get what you’re saying, and “I was only following orders” is also a choice, and one that you should get rightfully judged for, but let’s not pretend like creating circumstances where people find themselves uneducated and without life prospects isn’t a big recruitment vector for the military.
Yeah no shit, the military gives you incentives to be a Nazi, you choosing those incentives knowing you’re doing Nazi shit still makes you a Nazi, regardless of how you end up if you don’t choose to be a Nazi.
What point are you making exactly? We don’t have to pretend like they had no other choice…
I think we’re in agreement. I don’t think there’s a contention at this point. Talking out loud about your thoughts on things with others is a constructive way to vet your own beliefs and preconceptions, when there is pushback you reevaluate. Reevaluate. It’s a word. Look!
reevaluate verb Revise or renew one’s assessment.
I wanted to say re-evaluate, but reevaluate is actually proper, and saves me a dash.
Anyway, I am glad we agree.
You can join the army or join the corps because you can’t make it here anymore.
And they’re not making it easier making it here.
If your options are to murder innocent people or to die, then lie down and get comfortable. But I have a feeling that while you are waiting, other options will occur to you.
I can respect that line of reasoning. I disagree, but I understand it.
Kind of like conscripting gang bangers and cartel members. Join us, and you’ll want for nothing. Terms and conditions apply.