Every time SCOTUS does this shit, they get one step closer to impeachments, and an expansion of the court.
I used to believe we should expand it to 13 seats, but I no longer hold that belief. Now I believe that we should expand it to 29 seats. SCOTUS is too important, it shouldn’t be so small that one bad-faith president can manipulate the composition of the court so that he negatively impacts policy for the next 50 years.
29 justices, rolling term limits, so every Prez gets to appoint a few, but never enough to alter the steady progression of our society and history, with wild cultural and political swings.
If you can’t even challenge the legality of your detention, then you don’t live in a law-abiding nation. That leaves only one way to challenge the state and I guarantee they’re not going to like it.
The constitution is quite clear on this…
6 of them are firmly stuck up trumps ass so you can set that question aside
In a 6-3 decision…
No justice under the Roberts court
I don’t even know why they bother pretending they have laws anymore. No one on the outside buys their bullshit and their loyal zombie hordes will bend over for any reason. It’s just a silly larp now.
The laws still exist for us, what you described is for the owner class
We still have laws.
The laws are whatever trump wants them to be, when he wants them to be them.
so like calvinball?
We have “contract law” now … but no actual justice system.
Its time to scrap it and rebuild. Even the money is worthless now.
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The only question to ask. Have you bitch slapped a republican today and if not why not?
Nazi working their way around
The answer has always been no. Whoever’s asking the court for this is who we should be worried about.
The answer is an emphatic no. This shouldn’t even be a question that needs asked.
If this shit happens then none of us (citizens included) have due process. ICE can just say they suspect you’re an illegal immigrant and lock you up forever. A lot of people seem to think that if you just show them the documents or prove that you’re a citizen this won’t happen. All they have to do is snatch you up. You typically see this line of thought from folks defending the current administration, like they believe if you rationally present your argument to authority they’ll always agree.
A lot of people seem to think that if you just show them the documents or prove that you’re a citizen this won’t happen.
Aren’t there already cases where holding valid documents has had no effect?
yeah, they already deported US citizens.
There are already enough cases of people showing their papers to ICE and discovering that ICE don’t care and aren’t held to account. But the people supporting it tend to be the “pay no attention until it happens to me” type.
Mate, with respect, they don’t give a fuck about the constitution nor civilians nor citizenship and have proven so multiple times.
No shit.
My point was we already lost due process I get that you’re pissed and I don’t blame you, I am too
Mom kinda thinks like this. I told her that no one should even be asked to prove their identity like that in public. She’d be more firmly on the right if my father isn’t tempering her.
My retort to a lot of these people is to ask if they can prove their citizenship right now, on the spot.
They can’t.
And like even if you could, do you really think that after handing over your passport/social security card/birth certificate that you still could?
I believe they will take your “papers” and lose them with a quickness.
My parents are reversed, with my mom tempering my dad’s conservatism. But it’s the same basic idea. My mom and I will be discussing whatever Government Atrocity of the WeekTM is making the news cycle, and my dad will basically go “good, I hope it sucks for {victim}. If they don’t like it, they can leave.”
Gee, and you wonder why I don’t ever want to hang out…
Ooooh nice, so they’re effectively going to decide if they get to actually run concentration camps in an official capacity. Delightful.
Also, I don’t expect ICEatzgruppen to abide by the court order if it doesn’t go their way
Everything the Nazis did was legal under German law. They were meticulous about renewing the Enabling Act multiple times.
Emil Bove is the person that floated the idea that they simply not abide by the courts. Seems important for later.
Don’t worry the court will write out an instruction manual of loopholes and how to exploit the loopholes if they do rule against it
Trans people are next. They are trying to bring back psychiatric detention and calling Trans people mentally ill.
I’m not sure if transgender people or “antifa” is next. I think “antifa” because that allows them to classify any dissent about anything as supporting terrorism (NSPM-7 executive order). That would be more efficient at removing dissent, then when there’s no way to speak out, they’ll go after transgender, socialists, eventually gay/lesbian, anyone who’s not white.
aka the Nazi’s list of enemies
Yes but also anyone that doesn’t like Trump will be accused of derangement syndrome. We’re all on that list
You can already be found not criminally liable and be sentenced to indefinite psychiatric hold instead of prison.
