I’m so fucking tired of CEOs and their shit-ass ideas
Everyone hated that
What a douche.
“Modern”, “AI” - buzzwords for shareholders
We meager 2% of browser users are not the customer base Mozilla is targeting for with stuff like this. This isn’t for us - it’s for the other 98% that Mozilla desperately wants to attract. I wouldn’t necessarily say we 2% don’t matter to Mozilla, but the fact is, losing us to gain something like 10% of the market would be a huge success for Mozilla.
This definitely sounds like what Mozilla wants to do, but who will care? People who want AI in the browser already have Edge and browsers developed by AI companies. Mozilla is just arriving late to the party, the same way they did with VR.
Yeah, I agree. Mozilla is just jumping on the bandwagon. It’s unlikely to change anything for them.
Gross.
No. One. Wants. That.
We have nowhere better to go. But that’s only for now, you short-sighted dumbass…
Fucking yikes.
I guess im looking for a new browser. Anyone have a good alternative?
How about LibreWolf?
As there seems to have been recent confusion about this, just a quick “official” toot to then pin: we haven’t and won’t support “generative AI” related stuff in LibreWolf. If you see some features like that (like Perplexity search recently, or the link preview feature now) it is solely because it “slipped through”. As soon as we become aware of something like this / it gets reported to us, we will remove/disable it ASAP.
What I want: a secure browser that does just that and nothing more.
I’m so sick of AI everything.
The entire premise of me going on a fucking tangent trying to reclaim my privacy and identity is because of the invasiveness of AI. I didn’t sign up to Mozilla to be fed more AI bullshit, I did it quite the inverse. The fact that I can’t be left the fucking god damn alone from AI enshitification infuriates me.
Am I going to need to build my own fucking web browser to avoid this shit?! Rhetorical question, the answer is yes, yes I will.
Quick, I got 5 weeks of break before classes start for me again, if any developer wants to build a web browser from scratch with me let me know and ill make the github repo.
Edit: on second thought we could implement our browser as a fork of gnome web instead of from scratch. GNOME web isn’t a derivative/fork of Firefox or chromium, however there are components from apple, like it’s rendering engine. Besides that, it’s not a bad idea to use
Boo this man!
BUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
BOOOOOOOO
Mozilla is a lost cause, and Firefox is too big to be rescued by one singular web-browsing development entity (that’s because the web has become too complicated so as to allow for terminal capitalism).
The solution is, honestly, for a well-constituted organization to hard-fork the web standards model as a whole package, to start a sort of “re-web” project. Pick up something like gemini but iterate it to a level where it can actually be useful (gemini, nifty as it is, is actually less capable of layout and styling than the printing press from the 1500s and that’s saying something). Maintain a “convertible subset” of HTML+CSS as an input option for people who want to maintain and develop simple sites that might want to eventually convert to re-web.
gemini, nifty as it is, is actually less capable of layout and styling than the printing press from the 1500s and that’s saying something
it’s like that by design, that’s the point of the protocoll
Yeah but that doesn’t really help much if the goal is “the web, but mote vintage of it”. My impression of gemini is it’s more like, to publish things you’d read on a beeper from the 90s.
AI should always be a choice — something people can easily turn off.
How about you make it something people have to turn on, and make it useful enough that they will enable it?
Or, better yet, step down as CEO. Pick someone who is in touch with what the project’s dedicated userbase actually wants.
a userbase that is largely shrinking?
Does that include those who have switched to a Firefox fork like Librewolf?
Those who use Firefox are more likely to be tech savvy. They’re therefore more likely to be comfortable switching to a Firefox fork as well.
Firefox keeps getting worse, why would those with the know how stick with it when they can use a fork which is better?
Most of the “abandon Firefox” rhetoric I’ve seen is due to their sudden focus on cramming in AI while simultaneously ignoring or half-assing long wanted features (e.g PWA support).
And to think that shoving in AI will fix any pre-existing userbase shrinkage is like thinking having a baby will save one’s failing marriage.
it’s been shrinking for well over 10 years, nothing to do with ai
Last data I saw showed user base pretty flat for the past 5 years.
Gee, our userbase is shrinking. What should we do? learn what the users want and cater to their needs? No, definitely what we must do is double down and force more unpopular features. That will surely bring back the users that left because of our previous decisions.
/s
Right, opt-in not opt-out.
Or add it to the list of onboarding steps at the very beginning. Otherwise, it’s either on by default or off by default, and our (or Mozilla’s) definition of “easy” is entirely open to interpretation.
Dear AI Techbros.
Why is AI in my browser something desirable for the common man?
It helps shareholders. Obligatory, I’m not a techbro
Mozilla’s a non-profit so what shareholders need to be please by bolting on this garbage to their browser?
Google’s.
Because you could theoretically order it to never show you stupid manipulative shit propaganda & brainrot and thus reclaim your spiritual/political/social life.
Disclaimer: I have not investigated at all how browsers are actually trying to apply AI.
